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Was the unabomber born at harvard
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Allison - welcome to DPF, and thank you for your post.

I'm going to be very precise about terminology here.

In doing so, I hope I'm not being pedantic. Rather by being clear about concepts and operations, we may get closer to understanding what's really going on.


Allison Hunt Wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out all the details of the Ted Kaczynski / Unabomber case. There seems to be only one source for the Deep Political theory regarding the case and that source is madly disorganized. http://www.unabombers.com

I would argue that the real source of understanding "Who Made The Unabomber?" is Alston Chase's research, excerpted in my post above.


Allison Hunt Wrote:Perhaps some forum members can help me answer some questions, such as: 1) It seems to be undisputed that Ted Kaczynski was an MK Ultra experimentation victim in the late 1950's. Even so, I do not understand what that has to do with him being a patsy for the bombings. That is, I don't see how MK Ultra could have made him a more effective or easier patsy. It seems his writings about the environment are truely heart-felt by him. Does anyone suggest his environmental views originated from MK Ultra? If not, I do not see the connection unless it was MK Ultra that discovered these views at age 16.

I have not seen any direct documentary evidence that Kaczynski was an MK-ULTRA subject in the strict sense of having been experimented on as part of a known MK-ULTRA programme.

However, Ted's psyche clearly was experimented upon at Harvard, as Chase demonstrates, and trauma was part of that experimentation. The shrink behind that psychological experimentation was Henry A Murray, who was an OSS Lt Col during WW2.

In addition:

Quote:Commissioned by OSS boss, William "Wild Bill" Donovan, in 1943 Professor Murray helped complete Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler. The report was done in collaboration with psychoanalyst Walter C. Langer, Dr. Ernst Kris, New School for Social Research, and Dr. Bertram D. Lawin, New York Psychoanalytic Institute. The report used many sources to profile Hitler including a number of informants such as Ernst Hanfstaengl, Hermann Rauschning, Princess Stephanie von Hohenlohe, Gregor Strasser, Friedelinde Wagner, and Kurt Ludecke. The groundbreaking study was the pioneer of Offender profiling and political psychology, today commonly used by many countries as part of assessing international relations.

My own judgement is that Kaczynski was subjected to the type of mind control experimentation which was part of MK-ULTRA in the metaphorical sense: representing all attempts to control the human psyche by intelligence agencies and military/psyops units from the 1940s onwards.

However, it may be unhelpful to describe Kaczynski as a programmed MK-ULTRA subject.

My own view is that his rebellion against the system, rooted in radical environmentalism, is in large part formed by genuine disgust at what Man has done, and is doing, to Nature. This disgust was exacerbated by the trauma and fragmentation of his psyche delivered during the Harvard experimentation.

I do not believe the Unabomber was a patsy in the sense that Oswald or Sirhan are patsies.


Allison Hunt Wrote:2) Who is Daniel C Pride? On the Unabomber web site, Pride claims some of the Unabomber handwriting belongs to himself. How did that happen? 3) On this Unabomber web site, there are hints that some people know who actually committed the bombings. Is this true? Who is he and what is the evidence? From where did that evidence come? 4) What made Ted Kaczynski a better patsy than any other person i.e., what made him stand out from all the others? Was it simple coincidence that CIA/Mosad spooks knew him from MK Ultra and that he also dropped out of main stream society? 5) Is the evidence against Kaczynski so thin that the government feared going to trial? Is that why he got railroaded into a plea he did not authorize? 6) 15 years later, why are there no JFK style books exposing this false-flag attack? Thank you for any light to be shed on this subject.

Allison - I haven't investigated the claims of Pride and the material on the unabombers site in any detail.

However, I note this comment made by Kaczynski in prison, for which the source is claimed as Interview with Ted Kaczynski, Administrative Maximum Facility Prison, Florence, Colorado, USA". Earth First Journal!. June 1999. Archived from the original on March 18, 2009. http://web.archive.org/web/2009031813570...k/tedk.htm. Retrieved March 18, 2009.
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Quote:When asked if he was afraid of losing his mind in prison, Kaczynski replied:

"No, what worries me is that I might in a sense adapt to this environment and come to be comfortable here and not resent it anymore. And I am afraid that as the years go by that I may forget, I may begin to lose my memories of the mountains and the woods and that's what really worries me, that I might lose those memories, and lose that sense of contact with wild nature in general. But I am not afraid they are going to break my spirit."
Ted Kaczynski
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Was the unabomber born at harvard - by Jan Klimkowski - 03-08-2011, 07:00 PM
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