05-08-2011, 01:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2011, 09:45 PM by Kyle Burnett.)
Charles Drago Wrote:Apparently you haven't the slightest idea of the definition of "misinformation" within the deep politics context.Please tell me, how do you figure that the context of deep politics precludes Fetzer's exaggeration of Keith's contribution to the big shaker system from qualifying as misinformation?
Charles Drago Wrote:You continue to evade the message and instead attempt to deflect attention to the messenger.My issue is not with the "messager", Fetzer, but with the claims he has presented in his "message". I started with his claim that "Joe Keith, for example, actually designed the shaker system", because that is what he chose to lead his article with. However, since Fetzer has now at least given a half-assed admission that Keith actually only designed software for the big shaker system rather than having designed the system as a whole, lets move on to Fetzers next claim where he replies to Lawson with "You suppress the information that the speed of the plane in the videos (of 560 mph) appears to have been a lapse by using its cruising speed at 35,000 feet". I've yet to find Lawson referring to cruising speed in his article, and to the contrary he references Vd, stating:
Quote:even John Lear had to admit that the plane is allowed to reach a speed parameter known as Vd. In the Boeing 767's case: a velocity of 420 KNOTS (483 mph), under flight-test conditions, at low altitudes. If that permitted speedwhich is not a definitive airframe or engine performance speedis increased by a mere 21%, the plane's calculated impact speed, when it met the South Tower, would be reached or slightly exceeded. And I have seen quotes along the lines of: Mr. Boeing builds 'em strong; and the inbuilt safety factor may be as high as 50% over a selected safety ceiling. Boeing will not release any wind-tunnel data, so what can be observed from what was recorded on video, as well as common sense, is all that anyone has to go on regarding the actual safety margins. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
So, please tell me Charles, can you quote anything from Lawson's to support Feltzer's claim here, or would you agree that Fetzer has failed to address Lawson's actual argument and constructed a strawman to attack instead?

