Charlotte Iserbyt: Societies Secrets

[Ed Jewett]

Ed,
First, let me say that I find your response to be noticably cutting; as it pertains to Israel. I see that you have a hostility towards Israel; not to menion the Masons. Since I shared with you my Jewish identity and Masonic affiliation your tone has changed. No, I do not think that Israel is "ethnocentricly narcissistic" or insensitive to what she has had to do to defend herself. Remember what I mentioned in a previous response; regarding the anti-Semitism of the New Left? Please be careful...And no, there is a huge dissent of opinion within Israel, (and the American Jewish community), regarding the Israeli government's handling of the Palestinians. I do take offense to your "Q&A" remarks regarding Israel being a 51st state; with representatives in the House and Senate. Again, please be careful; lest you find yourself sounding like Louis Farrakhan.

Wayne, before I answer your questions, let me ask some of my own -- for the record.

You suggest that I have a "hostility", but your very first post here in this thread was an ad hominem attack -- even in the title -- like this is some sort of showdown at the corral. I guess it is high noon somewhere.

Indeed, your very first post here at the Deep Politics Forum has my name in its title, despite the fact that you have a stated interest in knowing who is at the top of the pyramid in the JFK assassination. There are 852 threads with over 9,000 posts in the JFK section. Do you think I am at the top of that pyramid? Do you think I may have some idea as to who is at the top of the pyramid? Why, if the JFK assassination is the reason you are here at Deep Politics Forum, have you singled me out in a thread about secret societies? Did someone send you to this task?

One wonders why you haven't posted in the thread about the events in Oslo.

Wayne, you speak of a "tone change" after you introduced aspects of your self-identity, but your discernment of cause and effect is in error. In that same post in which you revealed your identity as a 32nd Mason, a Jew, and a student of Kabbalism, you spoke with some apparent knowledge of Zionism. I surmised three questions about Zionism thinking you might provide some illumination. Do you fear dialogue?

You suggest that I have a hostility against the Masons. I don't know much about the Masons, but there are historical references about how Illuminatism and the works of the Rothschilds were hidden or masked inside the organization. My hostility is not about Freemasonry; I appreciate that, at the bottom of the rungs, there are a lot of nice people who are looking for a club where they can feel welcome. There's an old TV show in syndication now about a place "where everybody knows your name". People have a need to belong.

You ask why I have a hostility against Israel. Israel appears, especially by its recent actions, to be a violent racist supremacist state. Israel committed murder of an American citizen on the open seas... repeated head shots at point-blank range of an unarmed man is not national self-defense. Israel committed an act or war against the USS Liberty, an act which was covered up by the US security state. Israel holds and expands on the standing threat of nuclear annihilation for vast stretches of territory, and has "gamed" the rationale of a first strike, and holds its Masada complex in a tight grip in the form of "the Samson Option".

Israel's birth coincides nicely with the creation of the national security enabling legislation of the late 40's, an act which has brought a massive infusion of deeply disturbing acts by an unaccountable agency -- repeated acts of state crimes against democracy -- including the use and development of mind control, bio-warfare, massive surveillance, covert activities in the illicit trafficking of deadly narcotics, and numerous other acts of destructiveness. There is, it seems, a good degree of cross-integration between the intelligence agencies of both states.

Israel's fingerprints are all over the act of murder of 3,000 people in September 2001. Professionally, I was involved in emergency medical systems response and emergency management, and Zionists killed some of my peers and used my profession as cover for their dastardly act.

Israel introduced the art of terrorism into the late-20th century international scene and is arguably the premier agent of false flag attacks.

Goggle "Israel's war crimes" and you get four million hits, surely a grand debate not yet formally answered so long as there are people who will intimidate critics.

You take offense at the joke about Israel and Congress. It was an explanation of the reality in my third question about Zionism. I trust you are familiar with the debates, issues, charges, and evidence regarding the role of AIPAC as a lobbying firm, one that involves fiscal tinkering with the outcomes of elections, engages in industrial and economic espionage, fails to register -- as it arguably should -- as a foreign agent, and more. Additional issues can be mentioned in terms of the use of Israeli technologies and corporations to infiltrate and spy on the creation of domestic and foreign policy inside the Beltway. Then there is the case of Rachel Abileah, an American, who was assaulted by members of AIPAC, when she protested Benjamin Netanyahu when he addressed Congress.

You caution me against sounding like Louis Farrakhan. Is this an indication that suggests you are to engage in further damnation by association, painting me with the words and works of a Black Muslim? Do you have hostility against blacks or Islam? Well, we know that there are ancient antipathies. But when is enough enough?

You mention the anti-Semitism of the New Left... I am unfamiliar with the New Left. I was in the old left, but left it when it acquiesced to war-mongering and fiscal insanity and embraced state secrecy and corruption. I am familiar with anti-Semitism, having been accused of it repeatedly, mostly by Zionists and Jews, and I recognize that it is a way to self-inoculate; it's an old trick frequently used, as admitted by an Israeli. I am also familiar with the history and timing of the creation of the B'Nai B'rith and the ADL here in the United States, essentially as a covert or deceptive approach to a defense against the banksters who instituted (by deception) the Federal Reserve which today has the US economy and the dollar in a near-state of collapse due to its fraudulent and usurious practices, still unaccountable to anyone, as is its mega-bank: the Bank of International Settlements. Much of this is widely known and available in books, the Internet, or the ongoing journalism of a wide variety of citizens from a wide variety of backgrounds in the US and across the world.

Joe Biden, a self-admitted Zionist, the Vice President of the United States, is calling many Americans who demand fiscal sanity "terrorists" -- at a time when the PATRIOT ACT and its secret variants are in force and terrorists or anyone labeled as one can be detained indefinitely without trial and tortured.

The White House and the Department of Homeland Security have labeled anyone who protests or disrupts the TSA in its notorious harassing, sexually intimidating and traumatizing "pat down" procedures of women, young female adolescents, and old ladies in Depends. The TSA currently uses screening systems installed under the direction of Michael Chertoff, who left to go take a seat on the board of directors of the manufacturer.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.

-Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love

So, Wayne, why have you singled me out as your dominant act here at DPF?