20-09-2011, 10:48 AM
(This post was last modified: 20-09-2011, 11:10 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Lemkin,
How do you know what it would take to place explosives to take down the towers? ... how much time and precision?
The fact is, you don't know nor does any proponent of *explosive controlled demolition* know. The believe that the structure was so strong and with so much redundancy that to destroy it would take enormous planning, and lots of time and of course extensive explosives ... which were not really heard. Yes there were some explosions heard.. but they were not the huge number of bombs you seem to be implying and there were explosions of things like transformers and pressurized tanks.
You and most others seem averse to the notion of a progressive failure which is not unlike knocking over a line of dominos.... hit the first and the progression begins. That's what happens in a CD anyway.. and so the demo people use the least bang for the buck based on the job. That is how this needs to be approached because there is no obvious evidence,...*smoking gun*... of extensive use of explosives. You are deceiving yourself into believing this.
We don't know yet. Nano thermite is not capable any way of producing the observed outcome.
Calculations have been done and papers written by informed persons, with footnotes and references on the amounts likley neeed; the amounts used - based on residues in dust; and the time and access questions. Nanothermite is perfectly suited for what was observed. Your bizarre theory is IMO not and I don't even believe anymore you believe in it - sorry. You are just on Forums, IMHO to cast doubt. I believe I have posted here long ago the papers I mention, if not they can be found on the internet. Access was likely through the power downs, utility floors, elevator upgrade and fireproofing upgrades [some or all of these]. Amounts needed were large [in absolute terms; not large relatively - as nanothermite is both an incindiary [burns through steels and concrete] and an explosive - depending on placement and amounts used. Timing was done by radio control timers that were computer controlled to microseconds. You are IMHO trying to deceive others into believing a solid as rock building can just unzip or collapse like a house of cards or dominoes. I'm not convinced nor fooled by that nonsense.
Even IF [and I see NO way IF] your un-link theory had any merits, it would have to be rejected [to name but a few reasons] for not being able to explain:
- the total energy release
- the molten metal/steel
- the nanothermite and its residue in the dust
- multi-ton beams propelled hundreds of yards latterally [gravity works downward]
- the total pulvarization of everything into a fine pyroclastic dust
- the squibs
- the flashes seen and explosions heard
- WTC 7
- and much more.
There were no zipper parts, cards, nor dominoes [or their WTC equivilents on the ground...only exploded dust!]
Sorry.....
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