Libya : A no lie zone

[Albert Doyle]

There certainly are good Arabs and bad Arabs, and a mean, cut-throat steak runs through their blood, as exhibited by the public executions of those who opposed the Gadhafi regime from the very day it seized power.

While I agree there is a hand-chopping and throat-slitting primitiveness to traditional Islamic culture it isn't that much different in effect than carpet bombing or nuclear slaughter. You could actually argue that our violence is much worse by objective scale overall. Plus, don't forget we have our own covert throat-slitters in CIA and other private mercenary forces. It's all a matter of how you look at it I guess. Our democratic 'sharia' has a much higher body count.

As far as "good arabs and bad arabs" there is more than a modicum of hypocrisy in the arabs we propagandize against and those we support and team with. For instance, both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were closely supplied US/CIA assets. The US is not soft-handed with those who oppose it.

How do you know they've traded one dictatorship for another? They say they were fighting and dying (35,000+) for democracy, and they haven't formulated a constitution yet. Have you ever written a constitution?

We'll see how they are allowed to voice opposition to either the US or Israel. Democracy and its definition vary, as does what is claimed in its name. For instance the US war crime invasion of Iraq was also justified with claims of democracy. In case you aren't aware the US already has a history of installing pro-US regimes in the Middle East.

And how is the CIA a rogue power? I thought it was acting on US government policy and administrative orders?

You're not serious? I recommend you read on this site. This type of proxy regime change is exactly what Kennedy fought, and is also exactly what got him killed. I recommend you pay attention to the level of democracy HERE in America while your attention is being drawn overseas.

The CIA is the whipping boy for all those who sprout ideological nonsense.

"Ideological nonsense"? You mean like international law, UN rules, Geneva Conventions, US Constitution, the founding fathers torture repudiation etc etc? Those poor innocent JFK, RFK, MLK, and Lennon-murdering CIA lambs.

And how did the CIA illegally forment arab "revolutions"? The CIA not only didn't forment the Arab revolutions, they didn't anticipate them, predict them or even recognize the revolt was happening in Tunisia until a week or more after it was sparked by the self-immolation of Mohamid Bouazizi on Dec. 17, 2010. Show me a link between Bouasisi and the CIA and you will convince me.

Mmm hhh. Forget the fighter support, weapons supply, tactical assistance etc. No, this isn't phase II of the War On Terror. Couldn't be. Call Langley and ask them. Oh, by the way, the WMD was based on bad intel...

And the CIA isn't killing foreign leaders with impunity but has a list of those it is authorized to capture or kill. And I hope Joseph Kony is on that list.

Of course not. We can just forget the whole basis of the HSCA or how it caused a new law forbidding CIA from doing exactly that (which they now seem to see as 'irrelevant'). How many JFK's does one Joseph Kony buy???

By the way, look at the longevity record of past leaders who cooperated with CIA or were targets of US interest. It ain't too good.

Let's see, Bin Laden, killed 3,000 people on 9/11, American Al Qaeda in Yemen who threatened and tried to mass murder Americans, and who else?

I know it was CIA. I'm dead serious when I say I could tell you something that would blow your mind that I know directly that CIA was behind 9-11. It's so dangerous I can't speak of it. There's absolutely no doubt CIA killed 3000 Americans in order to induce the PNAC. CIA (or some removed, convoluted deep form of them) murders American citizens and presidents. I leave it up to you to figure what that makes people who defend them. The sooner CIA is eradicated from America the healthier our democracy will become.

Gadhafi's car might have been hit by a CIA Predator Drone, but he was killed by his "sons," his own Libyan people, and for good reasons, though I would have preferred a trail and legal execution.

What do you call the Iraqi "sons" who defended their country against an illegal CIA war?

I don't think the CIA does anything in the name of democracy. Democracy isn't their mission.

There's really nothing to say past this is there? This is something I fear more and more Americans don't fear saying, or understand the dire implications of, or its affect on democracy.