07-12-2011, 06:30 AM
Hardly the time now to even discuss in detail 'how we got here' - at the very edge and about to plunge over it! Obama says he will veto it and we will see.....I have little faith in him; this will be his ultimate test. The Occupy Movement, sadly, has not yet gotten a hold of this and I see very little in the MSM [no surprise there!]. In ten short years a fascist police state went from a glimmer in their eyes to reality. Yes, the plans date back much longer than that, but the final touches all point to a turning point ==> 9-11, when 'everything changed'. Time to roll up our sleeves and stop this madness - or it will stop us and destroy everything worth living for and everything living. 
Here is the nexus between what we are talking about in this thread and the Occupy Movement's issues
Here is the nexus between what we are talking about in this thread and the Occupy Movement's issues
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass