12-12-2011, 06:03 AM
I agree with all said above and much more could be added...and might when I have more time [sorry, really don't now..]. Just a few quick thoughts to develop later, I hope. Don't forget Mae Brussel's seminal work "Nazi Connections to the JFK Assassination' which can be found on the internet. For its time and what was known at the time it pieced a lot together! Next, Dulles had no great philosophical nor ethical differences with the Nazis and lots of friends and business / banking connections with them. From my perspective he only disliked their notion to take over the World - that was OUR mandate [from his perspective]. When the Nazis were taken under our wing [as with the G.O.] or into our fold [as with the Nazi scientists and doctors and others] they were allowed not only a 'get-out-of-jail-free-card', but were encouraged and funded to do what they had been doing before in the way of unethical experiments....some in USA and some at remote USA locations, such as Colonia Dignidad and many others. They say that one becomes like one's enemies and in this case it certainly came true [not that we were virgin white before].
A mysterious Nazi U-Boat laden with nuclear weapons materials and perhaps one other important secret weapon was secretly taken custody of [by pre-arrangement] off the coast of Rhode Island and secretly offloaded and covered up. Some of the contents may well have been used in the two bombs used on Japan....another untold story.
The USA thwarted many international Nazi Hunters from getting to their quarry when they were persons helpful to the US 'National Security Establishment'. The same kinds of things that got others hung at Nuremburg were now being done for the good 'ol USA - with impunity and in secrecy. Though well documented in a few books, this is still a part of history largely unknown by the average American and certainly not taught in University History courses, etc.
Also little known are the high-tech secret weapons, patents and ideas taken by the USA after the War. We all know about the rocket scientists, but that was only the tip of an iceberg. Some of these 'ideas' were unethical medical experiments on humans - from pain thresholds, torture techniques, to mind control and beyond.
Then there is the matter of the plundered money, gold, art, etc. of the Nazis and Japanese. D. Guyatt and S. Seagrave have told much of this story with the Japanese gold, but there is even. more. I believe that Gen. G. Patton was murdered for what he knew of the US theft of huge amounts of Nazi plunder, as well as the absorption of secret weapons and the scientists that went along with them. There is a great book called Nazi Gold about how in the area around Oberammergau after the War buried gold and other valuables were traded and deals made. This is also here where a camp existed through which many of the scientists, doctors, spies and others were laundered. Interestingly, a certain H. Kissinger was stationed there.
There is more, for another time. This really deserves it own thread.
A mysterious Nazi U-Boat laden with nuclear weapons materials and perhaps one other important secret weapon was secretly taken custody of [by pre-arrangement] off the coast of Rhode Island and secretly offloaded and covered up. Some of the contents may well have been used in the two bombs used on Japan....another untold story.
The USA thwarted many international Nazi Hunters from getting to their quarry when they were persons helpful to the US 'National Security Establishment'. The same kinds of things that got others hung at Nuremburg were now being done for the good 'ol USA - with impunity and in secrecy. Though well documented in a few books, this is still a part of history largely unknown by the average American and certainly not taught in University History courses, etc.
Also little known are the high-tech secret weapons, patents and ideas taken by the USA after the War. We all know about the rocket scientists, but that was only the tip of an iceberg. Some of these 'ideas' were unethical medical experiments on humans - from pain thresholds, torture techniques, to mind control and beyond.
Then there is the matter of the plundered money, gold, art, etc. of the Nazis and Japanese. D. Guyatt and S. Seagrave have told much of this story with the Japanese gold, but there is even. more. I believe that Gen. G. Patton was murdered for what he knew of the US theft of huge amounts of Nazi plunder, as well as the absorption of secret weapons and the scientists that went along with them. There is a great book called Nazi Gold about how in the area around Oberammergau after the War buried gold and other valuables were traded and deals made. This is also here where a camp existed through which many of the scientists, doctors, spies and others were laundered. Interestingly, a certain H. Kissinger was stationed there.
There is more, for another time. This really deserves it own thread.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass

