20-12-2011, 05:51 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:The CIA had enough involvement that they can't be let off the hook with sponsor/facilitator logic. After all it is their job to expose such things, which is a betrayal of their function towards our democracy. What worries me about this sponsor/facilitator business is due blame and action is backed-off of because people are waiting to present the perfect china shop of evidence. These people risk looking like they are afraid to confront CIA.
Albert,
What to you is fear of commitment is, to me and other, the struggles to discover truth and effect justice.
In your zeal to finger the CIA as the ... dare I use the term ... collective "mastermind" of the JFK assassination, you join Phillip Nelson and Jim Fetzer in (inadvertently?) providing deep cover for the true Sponsors.
Again -- and I harbor no illusions about your ability to dismount from the lame Langley nag -- the CIA was/is a horse, not a rider.
You've yet to define "the CIA" in terms of the JFK assassination. And that's because you can't.
Were senior CIA officers involved in the plot as high- and mid-level Facilitators? YES! (Confrontational enough for you?)
Did those senior CIA officers sponsor the plot? NO!
By definition, could any CIA officer be in a position to sponsor the plot? NO!
Further, when you obsess over CIA involvement, you implicitly describe the assassination as an act of the American deep political state. This simplistic conclusion helps insulate the true Sponsors and the systems they rule.
But since you insist upon rejecting the validity and effectiveness of the Evica/Drago Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic model, then by all means provide your own conspiracy model and defend it (in the academic sense) as I defend E/D.
We're all cyber-ears ...
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
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If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene