10-01-2012, 11:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2012, 11:21 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Don Jeffries Wrote:Okay, now to defend Ralph Cinque, whom I know very little about.
Reading through this thread, I'm reminded of the old Universal Horror movies, where the angry citizens are marching through the streets with torches. Cinque appears to be playing the hapless role of Frankenstein's monster, trying in vain to elude the mob.
I don't see what you all are objecting to here. Cinque didn't even start the thread, someone else did, and they attacked his work. Yet virtually every post on this thread (except for Cinque's) portrays things as if Cinque came onto this forum and started attacking others. He didn't. He was attacked and is defending himself.
And why is there so much desperate vitriol directed at the hypothesis that it was Oswald in the TSBD doorway, and not Lovelady? This is yet another of those "neo-con" type issues, wherein too many good researchers have simply given ground on a potentially explosive piece of evidence proving conspriacy. The early critics, especially Weisberg, made a very strong case that Lovelady was not the man in the doorway, and that it could very well have been Oswald. No convincing research has been done, in all the years since then (at least to my knowledge) to justify the kind of certainty I see, in so many posts on this subject, from my fellow CTers, that the figure has been proven to be Lovelady. There is no concrete evidence that it was Lovelady. At the very least, there is a great deal of reasonable doubt here.
Is this an important issue? Well, we all know the case for conspiracy certainly doesn't rest on Oswald being the figure in the doorway captured in the Altgens photograph. However, IF it can be established that it WAS Oswald, then it becomes the kind of "smoking gun" we've all yearned for over the decades. Even the most brainwashed member of the idiocracy cannot fail to see the significance of a photo showing the alleged assassin, standing gunless with other spectators, as the victim is being shot directly in front of him. What better evidence for conspiracy, or at least Oswald's innocence, could there be?
Again, I've never communicated with Mr. Cinque ever, and really know nothing about him. I just wanted to step in and defend him, because I don't think he's being treated fairly.
Hey Don, sorry if the above comment is a bit 'sarcy'.
I've actually read your comments on the Ed Forum. And though I can't say I agree with you, I do appreciate your charitable disposition to any and all people. It is certainly a voice amongst the carnage budinski.
Sadly, Don mate it really is a war as CD says. Because it's very important that the odd person that float's past here looking at topics on JFK see's that there is a crank minority, that they don't speak for us. Nor do we all believe their myths. Now I am not going to deliver you the classic are you 'for us or against us' load of cobblers. You keep being 'you'. It's a good thing, but be cogniscant that as CD, Lisa Pease, Jim Di, Jan and other's say, there is a very real hierarchy of knowledge, thought and process.
The mission Don is to sort the wheat from the chaff. Sadly mate it does mean having to be ruthless and yes, having to be a bit of a mongrol and yes a measure of confidence which 'yes' is a bitch is required. Quite possibly mine and CD's dispatch method's are more akin to Dirty Harry than say Anton from no country for old men rofl. But you can't really be a shrinking violet because those wankers will exploit that fact. Further, Alex Jones Don as Jim Di and I have said (and I am not sure if Jim said it to you on the Ed Forum). For all the millions of dollars he makes, you would think he would get better researchers and investigators? His output is about 90 percent crap. The other ten is the stuff he doesn't over blow or screw up. In saying that you me and this forum already dang well know about it. Contrast Jones to say if Jim Di and Lisa did a show. How much of a can of whip ass verifiable stuff would that have? I mean you could have Charles doing the weather, me doing sport with Magda covering the Mud Wrestling, you could have star signs with Vasilios (he's Greek he's got to know about them).
Now how kick ass would that be compared to Alex Jones?
You will ask of course 'who gives you the right to sit in judgement' well, I don't but I really do trust that many of the people like those mentioned above are seasoned grizzled and knowledgeable enough too dictate term's. Not because they all agree with me and back slap me either. Sheesh, I had a funny one with Jan about Peter Dale Scott and Mike Moore which I am still giggling about. One of the worst analogies I've ever made to be honest (but don't tell that git Jan lol). So I hope you get what I mean. I hope you also appreiciate my vision of a united kick ass group. What's funny is that JFK forums bar certan others Don are showing less and less tolerance for people like Cinque. This is why people like Cinque suck the puss from dead goats testicles. They really ruin it for genuine people popping in and asking honest question's about certain topics.
Anyhow nice to finally meet you Don. Take care.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992