14-01-2012, 08:20 AM
A few thoughts on the subject.
I myself have not seen the 'other film', but I know a person not mentioned here in this thread who has and I trust that they have. They choose to remain nameless, as many of those who have seen the 'other film' likewise choose.
As Rich described and as I have elsewhere posted [as have others] to my knowledge EVERYONE who has seen the 'other film' has seen the same features in it - or missing [from the Z-film] (word it anyway you like). I find that most interesting and many of the people who saw the 'other film' reported to friends what they saw before they heard or read the descriptions of what the few others who have seen 'the other film' saw. The descriptions match GREATLY. [i.e. I think they all were seeing the same 'other film']
I have always believed the Z-film was once [!] a real film, but the version we now 'have' has been greatly altered to adhere to the official fiction of the events in Dallas - altered in many ways - too numerous to mention here.
As for other cameras in the Plaza, we know of Arnold's and don't know what happened to it - even if he says it was destroyed. Jack White and others have hunted for other cameras and at times thought they had seen what might be one or some. Tom Wilson [a much overlooked and misunderstood researcher IMHO] found three operational persons in the plaza with identical optical devices in front of their faces. Exactly what they were [rangefinders, monoculars, cameras] can not at this point be said. Certainly a camera was NOT a suspicious item in a crowd of people watching the President - whether in the hands of real 'watchers' or conspirator 'watchers'. It is also not hard to secrete a camera in a hidden location and recover it later. Unconfirmed, but highly likely is that by 1963 there was an equivalent movie camera to the minox [i.e. very small and easy to hide as other object].
Lastly, I know on a few occasions there have been meetings [or communication exchanges] between those who saw the 'other' film together or separately [saw it together or at different times and places] and when comparing notes, again, they all seem to report the same features - which conform to what most unimbedded researchers now believe were the real events of the day.
I myself have not seen the 'other film', but I know a person not mentioned here in this thread who has and I trust that they have. They choose to remain nameless, as many of those who have seen the 'other film' likewise choose.
As Rich described and as I have elsewhere posted [as have others] to my knowledge EVERYONE who has seen the 'other film' has seen the same features in it - or missing [from the Z-film] (word it anyway you like). I find that most interesting and many of the people who saw the 'other film' reported to friends what they saw before they heard or read the descriptions of what the few others who have seen 'the other film' saw. The descriptions match GREATLY. [i.e. I think they all were seeing the same 'other film']
I have always believed the Z-film was once [!] a real film, but the version we now 'have' has been greatly altered to adhere to the official fiction of the events in Dallas - altered in many ways - too numerous to mention here.
As for other cameras in the Plaza, we know of Arnold's and don't know what happened to it - even if he says it was destroyed. Jack White and others have hunted for other cameras and at times thought they had seen what might be one or some. Tom Wilson [a much overlooked and misunderstood researcher IMHO] found three operational persons in the plaza with identical optical devices in front of their faces. Exactly what they were [rangefinders, monoculars, cameras] can not at this point be said. Certainly a camera was NOT a suspicious item in a crowd of people watching the President - whether in the hands of real 'watchers' or conspirator 'watchers'. It is also not hard to secrete a camera in a hidden location and recover it later. Unconfirmed, but highly likely is that by 1963 there was an equivalent movie camera to the minox [i.e. very small and easy to hide as other object].
Lastly, I know on a few occasions there have been meetings [or communication exchanges] between those who saw the 'other' film together or separately [saw it together or at different times and places] and when comparing notes, again, they all seem to report the same features - which conform to what most unimbedded researchers now believe were the real events of the day.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
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