16-01-2012, 12:01 AM
For some reason, though these studies were done on rich's several threads during 2006, oct i think, studies and research that resulted were never carried through or bothered to be picked up by other members or visitors, and taken to compleion as far as pssible.......so fyi......the doorway of the tsbd was also photographed that day by another photographer, who imo film has never been studied further, that of the david wiegman film.......first david's information of his actions that day...posted oct 6. 2006 on rich's..
Hi Chris,
Hope this may help.....
David Wiegman:
"We were in that straight-a-way heading down to what I now know as
the Book Depository, and I heard the first report and I thought like every
body that it was a good size firecracker---a cherry bomb .Then when I
heard the second one, the adrenaline really started pumping because
there was a reaction in the motorcade, I was sitting on the edge of the
(car door) frame,which I sometimes did. I keenly remember right after
the incident that my feet were on the ground during one of the reports.
I don't think I was fast enough to react to the second, but I think on the
third one I was running.
The car had slowed down enough for me to jump out. I swung my leg
over and jumped while the car was still moving, but it was very slow.
I jumped and I remember running and I remember the third shot.
When I got out I knew I better get around the corner. The car was
stopping. I'd better run around there and see what was happening. I
knew the reaction was to run forward. I'd done this before in other
motorcades because a lot of times the President will stop and do
something. He might just shake a hand. He might look at a sign.
So your doing no good sitting in your car, and you can always
retrieve your car as it goes by....It was a technique I've used and
I've gotten some good pictures that way. That may have been built
in to get out and run and get up there and see what the heck's
happening . The motorcade has stopped, plus you heard a report
I don't think I thought on the first or second ( shot ), but when the
third one went off, I really thought I felt the compression on my face.
----I really thought I felt it. The I thought "Somebody is shooting".
The idea of turning on the camera, I don't know where that came
from. I've turned in some real sloppy work over the years that
went into editing because I believed that sometimes your not
photographing what's happening as much as the moment. It's a
slice of time. And something told me, "hey look, what have I got to
lose. I've got a full spring and just turn it on." I can't stop and plant
my feet, so I put it against my chest because you can't run with a
Filmo up to your eyes. So I just slid it down under my chin and
looked forward and ran as fast as I could and took in everything I
could."
Telephone interview Wiegman, 3/11/89..P.O.T.P...Trask..
pages 371-372.
..........................
He was in the Press car 1."the reel car"
the first with photographers aboard..A yellow 1964 Chev.Impala
convertible.
The President's Lincoln..The Queen Mary.SS...L.B.Js ...
SS..The Bell Telephone press pool car ..then the Press #1 Car..
(Wiegman's). Along with Atkins,Craven,John Hoefen,( Wiegman's
sound man..Front seat driving a Texas Ranger..then Cleve Ryan
then Wiegman on the passenger seat in the sixth car behind the
President..
He was carrying a Filmo movie camera,used no handle,
shot with left eye finders on left side of camera.Wide angle lens,
He thought he used a 10mm.that day..
Worked for NBC..TV cameraman..White House attachment every
day for 8 years..37 years old..
.........................
"It would appear through careful analysis of this film, and aided in
research done by Richard Sprague and Gary Mack ,on the timing
of the sequence, that Wiegman began filming
A LITTLE OVER THREE SECONDS:....
prior to the President BEING HIT IN THE HEAD".
Gary Mack 's,"Coverups!"..9/1982..p.2-5...9/1985, p.1-2..
Letter Richard Sprague to Robert Cuttler, 10/31/1982.
..........................
"Wiegman probably first pressed his camera trigger just after
the second shot."..clip.."begins as Wiegman's car is approaching
the TSDB, while the telephone car infront begins making the
left hand turn.".." shows various spectators on the steps of the
Book Depository as well as others on the sidewalk..Many are
looking forwards towards the presidential vehicle while some
are gazing back at the vehincles coming in their direction."
.Trask..p373
.......
In the film we see, the film begins with a panning of the front
entrance of the TSBD,swings to the left, then back to the right,
he then was on his way to the knoll,and behind the fence...see.
the film at below...click, Wiegman, then when page loads, click top
right hand corner button....ta da..
http://www.jfk-online.com/films.html
.................................
We have Wiegman capturing the TSBD entrance approximately
"A little over three seconds" prior to the President being hit in
head."..see above..Sprague..Mack..
......................
He continued filming as he ran his film shakes and jumps as he
spans the grassy knoll area, the Limo travelling to the underpass,
and what appears to
be smoke coming from under the trees in the area
of the fence ,then the pergola area
again, and some of the witnesses laying on the
ground,finally he proceeded to the
parking lot behind the fence area..
************************************8
Wiegman Film........
Dave Wiegman, Jr. (MPG, 7.5 MB)
http://www.jfk-online.com/1wiegman.html
********************************
at the time i did contact gary and asked if we might obtain a copy of his article but was told they were not available as they were all packed away.so that is not within the studies tried...b
Best B..
Hi Chris,
Hope this may help.....
David Wiegman:
"We were in that straight-a-way heading down to what I now know as
the Book Depository, and I heard the first report and I thought like every
body that it was a good size firecracker---a cherry bomb .Then when I
heard the second one, the adrenaline really started pumping because
there was a reaction in the motorcade, I was sitting on the edge of the
(car door) frame,which I sometimes did. I keenly remember right after
the incident that my feet were on the ground during one of the reports.
I don't think I was fast enough to react to the second, but I think on the
third one I was running.
The car had slowed down enough for me to jump out. I swung my leg
over and jumped while the car was still moving, but it was very slow.
I jumped and I remember running and I remember the third shot.
When I got out I knew I better get around the corner. The car was
stopping. I'd better run around there and see what was happening. I
knew the reaction was to run forward. I'd done this before in other
motorcades because a lot of times the President will stop and do
something. He might just shake a hand. He might look at a sign.
So your doing no good sitting in your car, and you can always
retrieve your car as it goes by....It was a technique I've used and
I've gotten some good pictures that way. That may have been built
in to get out and run and get up there and see what the heck's
happening . The motorcade has stopped, plus you heard a report
I don't think I thought on the first or second ( shot ), but when the
third one went off, I really thought I felt the compression on my face.
----I really thought I felt it. The I thought "Somebody is shooting".
The idea of turning on the camera, I don't know where that came
from. I've turned in some real sloppy work over the years that
went into editing because I believed that sometimes your not
photographing what's happening as much as the moment. It's a
slice of time. And something told me, "hey look, what have I got to
lose. I've got a full spring and just turn it on." I can't stop and plant
my feet, so I put it against my chest because you can't run with a
Filmo up to your eyes. So I just slid it down under my chin and
looked forward and ran as fast as I could and took in everything I
could."
Telephone interview Wiegman, 3/11/89..P.O.T.P...Trask..
pages 371-372.
..........................
He was in the Press car 1."the reel car"
the first with photographers aboard..A yellow 1964 Chev.Impala
convertible.
The President's Lincoln..The Queen Mary.SS...L.B.Js ...
SS..The Bell Telephone press pool car ..then the Press #1 Car..
(Wiegman's). Along with Atkins,Craven,John Hoefen,( Wiegman's
sound man..Front seat driving a Texas Ranger..then Cleve Ryan
then Wiegman on the passenger seat in the sixth car behind the
President..
He was carrying a Filmo movie camera,used no handle,
shot with left eye finders on left side of camera.Wide angle lens,
He thought he used a 10mm.that day..
Worked for NBC..TV cameraman..White House attachment every
day for 8 years..37 years old..
.........................
"It would appear through careful analysis of this film, and aided in
research done by Richard Sprague and Gary Mack ,on the timing
of the sequence, that Wiegman began filming
A LITTLE OVER THREE SECONDS:....
prior to the President BEING HIT IN THE HEAD".
Gary Mack 's,"Coverups!"..9/1982..p.2-5...9/1985, p.1-2..
Letter Richard Sprague to Robert Cuttler, 10/31/1982.
..........................
"Wiegman probably first pressed his camera trigger just after
the second shot."..clip.."begins as Wiegman's car is approaching
the TSDB, while the telephone car infront begins making the
left hand turn.".." shows various spectators on the steps of the
Book Depository as well as others on the sidewalk..Many are
looking forwards towards the presidential vehicle while some
are gazing back at the vehincles coming in their direction."
.Trask..p373
.......
In the film we see, the film begins with a panning of the front
entrance of the TSBD,swings to the left, then back to the right,
he then was on his way to the knoll,and behind the fence...see.
the film at below...click, Wiegman, then when page loads, click top
right hand corner button....ta da..
http://www.jfk-online.com/films.html
.................................
We have Wiegman capturing the TSBD entrance approximately
"A little over three seconds" prior to the President being hit in
head."..see above..Sprague..Mack..
......................
He continued filming as he ran his film shakes and jumps as he
spans the grassy knoll area, the Limo travelling to the underpass,
and what appears to
be smoke coming from under the trees in the area
of the fence ,then the pergola area
again, and some of the witnesses laying on the
ground,finally he proceeded to the
parking lot behind the fence area..
************************************8
Wiegman Film........
Dave Wiegman, Jr. (MPG, 7.5 MB)
http://www.jfk-online.com/1wiegman.html
********************************
at the time i did contact gary and asked if we might obtain a copy of his article but was told they were not available as they were all packed away.so that is not within the studies tried...b
Best B..