21-01-2012, 07:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 21-01-2012, 07:41 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Adele Edisen Wrote:Peter said:
....America is all but lost now forever, if we don't get real traction on Dallas by the 50th or Occupy or some similar movement doesn't start the revolution in the next year or two, America will soon be no better than was the third Reich...that bad, I fear is in the near offing!!!!!
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Your statement got my attention, and I'd like to add a comment or two. I think we are now already in the same state as was Nazi Germany and fascist Italy in the 1920s and 1930s. Rich DellaRosa often quoted Benito Mussolini's definition of the fascist state, calling it the Corporate State. This means that the corporations are the government. The Citizens United decision of our US Supreme Court has now literally legalized it. In my opinion, the journey toward fascism most visably began in this country in 1933-34 when Wall Street conspirators tried to overthrow our government and a democratically elected president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and install a dictator. A major movement to further this was the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and all the others murdered as he was. We now, almost 50 years later, should be able to recognize our country's current political and economic status if we have studied any world and US history of the last 100 years or so. I am also very mindful of the year 1913, when the Federal Reserve Banking system was created, which was a step toward financial private control of the government, and which President Kennedy tried to minimiize by having the Treasury Department issue interest-free monies by Executive Order. Had this continued, it eventually would have eroded the Federal Reserve Banking system.
Adele
As did Greg, I also applaud your comments here and their content!~ I have NO arguement with your analysis...none, whatsoever. That the son and grandson of a plotter and financier of the 33-34 plot were Presidents shows how rotten to the core the system is...but there is no part now that isn't rotten and no President since JFK even close. That they chose to assassinate him shows how antithetical he was to their 'system'...which grinds on grinding up the Planet and the People on it, sadly...... Percevere! Thanks Adele!
NB - There is a very interesting book by Gross called 'Friendly Fascism' written about America under RayGun. It is still on the mark and explains how the new fascism tries hard to be cryptic and not the old 'angry' type that was the Third Reich! PR make-over and Disneyesque touches keep it 'all American and 'friendlier', but still FASCISM!!....my initial comment was understated to not scare the chickens or newbees. As you correctly, IMO, point out, the march or goose-step toward fascism started long ago and the icing on the cake, so to speak was Dallas...and the cherry on top was 911 and its 'Enabling Act' [the unPatriot Act]. America can not withstand yet another such, and I believe they are cooking up yet another such as we speak! But, yes, the USSA passed the 'threshold' of fascism some time back. Huey Long was so right to predict that when it did, it would come wrapped in an American flag!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass