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Deep Political Science and Altgens 6: A Hypothesis
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Seamus Coogan Wrote:
Greg Burnham Wrote:
Seamus Coogan Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:Let truth be the compulsion and the rule. And let those who wage against it, whether that be by philosophy or creed, be the fools...

Cmon CD Lighten up. This has less to do with Fetzer than the abstract premise of evidentiary falsification you so fondly discuss.
It's not an angle I am entirely averse too by the way. What is of concern here irregardless of JF is the idea of evidence being faked. How much was and how much wasn't? There is nothing 'foolish' nor am I being a JF obsessed 'fool' for being skeptical like Martin Hay and others at CTKA that all of the evidence photographed or otherwise was not authentic. Is Jim Di also a fool? If querying the notion of falsifying photographic evidence in the Altgens or any photo makes myself Fetzer obsessed that is extremely dissapointing. I see no need to alter the Altgens images nor deliberately alter all the Nix, Muchmoore and Zapruder films.

Oh but how the point is being missed!

The hypothesis in part has everything to do with the deliberate falsification of evidence for the purpose of obfuscating even that which would otherwise be knowable by creating doubt that any of the evidence is reliable and/or that differentiating between the two is even possible. Therein lies a motive for alteration even in the absence of "something they needed to obscure for a very good reason" -- There was motive to alter even innocuous photos.

Nope what we have is a failure to communicate. Have I ever said that there was no evidence falsification? I simply do not go along with the train of thought that the entire chain of evidence was falsified. Even the small stuff GB. While there's evidence the physical evidence of the case was manipulated and planted on Oswald, I ask where is the evidence in so far as the complete photographic record in Dealey that day? Where's the evidence the Altgens films were altered do we have a comparison? Call me conservative on the issue, if you may. Call me wrong. But GB while I am open to yours and CD's position not to mention 'Deep Political' discourse. I see this all as more or less a discussion in semantics and possibilities. It's not based on any evidence of anything, I can discern in the Altgens picture which makes up the banner to this thread. I think Vasilios made some good points concerning Salandria early on. I think Evica has made some interesting points as well. But, hey I'll leave you guys to dance around the Mulberry bush on this one. I dont think anybody can see the wood for the trees.

In terms of good threads I am enjoying the 9/11-Israel thread at the moment. Some good back and forth there. That'll probably be where you will find me.

Seamus,

The point isn't "we believe any particular evidence was or was not altered" -- The point is that some of the evidence was altered simply and solely for the sake of creating doubt, cognitive dissonance, obfuscation, but NOT for the specific reason of hiding something important.
GO_SECURE

monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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Deep Political Science and Altgens 6: A Hypothesis - by Greg Burnham - 13-02-2012, 07:04 AM

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