23-02-2012, 09:46 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Did anyone on 11/4 08 believe Obama would be THIS bad? Since 9-11 the ushering in of total fascism has been occurring at an alarming rate.
Dawn
Dawn, Ian Welsh was totally right about Obama well before the 2008 election. This is what he said in a recent post, which is consistent with his comments about Obama from the beginning:
Quote:"1) 2013 will be ugly. If Obama wins he will stop pandering to progressives and liberals. Since he never has to be reelected again, he will be even worse than he was 2009-2011. If you want anything from Obama, anything, get it before the election, do not believe promises, do not accept promises, accept cash only. If Romney or Gingrich wins, well, it's not going to be any better. SOPA and PIPA will be back in 2013 in some form, so will the pipeline enviros think they've killed."
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9) The 2012 election only matters in the margins. The question is flavors of disastrous president, there is no president on the menu who will not be a disaster, though obviouslyGingrich would be an extra serving of disaster. For the left, the election is essentially irrelevant. If you're focusing your effort on 2012 you're wasting your time. Focus on 2016.
http://www.ianwelsh.net/the-blindingly-o...and-so-on/
Obama will stop pandering to the liberals and progressives? He did before being sworn in! Yes, he will give them lip service even less! But anyone who is focused on 1016 isn't fully aware of where the US now IS! IMO, at this rate there will be no vote in 1016 [martial law or some such] or only out and out fascists to vote for - that is if the world is still habitable and America still a place one left of Attila the Hun can mange to not be arrested and locked away sans legal process....which I'd doubt. A massive vote for a write in candidate or breaking the entire system [thinking Mario Savio type thoughts here] are the only way to save things!!!!! No business as usual. No voting once in four years and believing that means anything - it doesn't. The game is rigged. Vote every hour of every day with what you do and don't do!!
Not disagreeing. Dawn wanted to know of a commentator who had predicted how bad Obama would be. I gave her a name -- a good one. But even he isn't dark enough.
I assume you meant 2016 and not 1016 -- unless you really think we really are in the Dark Ages. angryfire