27-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Mather & Tippit
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MATHER, CARL, AMOS Former neighbor of J.D. Tippit;employed at Collins Radio Co., in Richardson, T; question re: his auto (1957 Plymouthlicense pp 4537) at El Chico, (re Wes Wise) then same car at Tippit's home 11/22/63.
SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSSASSINATIONS
180-10087-10360
180-10108-10138
7-pages
"Postponed in Full" Box 254
Carl Amos Mather
3/20/78
Route 2, Box 228
Piano, Texas
Residence
Interview:
Have known the J.D. Tippit family since they were neighborsin 1958 on the 1900-2000 block of Glendfield, in Dallas.
Before the Mathers moved to Garland, Texas, in 11/61, they had become goodfriends with the Tippits. Each family had three children and the ages weresimilar. Carl and Barbara would double date on occasion, usually visiting a"family-type Club" involving an inexpensive evening. Never any trouble betweenanyone in either family, nor were they aware of any the Tippits had with anyoneelse.
Their impression of J.D. was that of a hard working mandetermined to provide for his family in spite of the lack of potential foradvancement. Knew he took various odd jobs to augment his income and seemed tospend what little free time he had with his family. Marie helped out bybabysitting for 5 to 7 children on somewhat of a regular basis. On occasion,the Mather kids would be included.
Hard put to recall other Tippit friends or associates in theneighborhood; they do recall "Frank and Angie" living next door to J.D. andMarie, but can't recall their surname.
Wes Wise, the ex-mayor, was a sports announcer at that timeand it seems he had a speaking engagement at "some restaurant in Dallasa short time after the assassination."
He (Wise) was told by "a man" who had in his employ amechanic who was also a part-time deputy of some nature, that this employee, onthe day of the assassination, had observed a suspicious "red ford car" spinningit's wheels and throwing gravel behind a parked bus. The mechanic utilized his"deputy training" and jotted down the tag number and now "this man" was givingit to Wise.
So Wise was calling him, advising him of these developmentsand inviting him to dinner inasmuch as there was another person from the newsmedia in New York, now in Dallaswith Wise to do a documentary on the entire assassination and any interestingasides.
He and his wife met Wise and Dana Bartell, "from the N.Y.,wire service" in the Old Warsaw Restaurant located in Oak Lawn.Dinner and discussion of these curious events didn't seem to accomplish much,as they came away without understanding how that mechanic could have writtendown the tag listed to "Carl's '57 Plymouth."
(Barbara was driving an old Ford station wagon, early 50's,white over faded blue at the time).
Several months later saw the documentary on TV with her namelisted in the credits, but no mention of the tag number episode.
Although they don't recall the exact date of this dinner, itwas so long after the incident, the new tags had since been issued and the oldones discarded. Moreover, it hadn't impressed him as being important enough toask someone to check for him. After all, the F.B.I. had apparently dropped thematter.
Asked to describe the F.B.I.'s efforts, Barbara said thatone day an agent came to the house. This was at 4309 Colgate Lane, the Garlandaddress they moved from 2018 Garlandin 11/61, and he inquired about their tags. She pointed out her tags on the oldFord station wagon and advised Carl had the '57 Plymouthat work.
No, they never owned a red auto of any type. Again shedoesn't recall the date, but it was when the newer tags were in effect anyway.She didn't hear from the agent again and Carl didn't hear at all.
What seemed like six weeks later, a second agent came to thesame house and interviewed Barbara again at home alone during the day andhe, too, was interested in the fact that a tag listed to Carl was observed on adifferent type of vehicle in a different part of town.
When she indicted the first agent didn't understand it,either, he seemed surprised another agent had been ahead of him. This seemed tocause his interest in the matter to wane and he left. Like the first agent, hedidn't return, nor did he interview Carl.
Not that Carl isn't used to being interviewed by governmentagents; he has a security clearance and he has had since he started travelingwith his company he's been with them for 21 years now. Has traveled overseas.His specific function deals with the installation of special electronics gearin aircraft. One such assignment caused him to be quartered in Brandywine, Maryland as he worked for some period oftime at Andrews Air Force Base working on "Air Force Two" Vice PresidentJohnson's plane at the time.
He adds he does recall the date of 11-22-63. He worked all day at Richardson, Texas, Collins Radio Shop. Although the(then) boss, J.A. Pickford, has since retired, he thinks he's still in thearea.
PICKFORD, JAMES
JFK ASSASSINATIONS SYSTEM ID FORM
HSCA
RIF: 180-10113-10265
REACTION TO ASSASSINATION, CARL MATHER,
KENNEDY, JOHN; ASSASSINATION
OUTSIDE CONTACT REPORT
OPEN IN FULL
08/12/93
BOX 256
12/1/78
Telephone contact
Summary: I made contact with Mr. Pickford on this date andreceived the following information, after I identified myself and told of ourinterest in developing a list of all witnesses in the JFK assassination. Herecalls that he represented management with Collins Radio and had lunch insidewith union representatives on 11/22/63in view of the ongoing discussions. After lunch, word came of the assassinationand was initially regarded as a course joke. Later verification brought aboutgeneral dismay and all employees were excused. He stated, "It was plain to seethat no one was going to do any work. It only remained to determine the paystatus." A few employees hung around, but most of them left.
With regard to Carl Mather, Pickford can't recall where hewas at the time of the assassination. He knows he didn't have lunch with him.His job at the time concerned electro-mechanical assembly, which is themechanical portion of working with electronic equipment. They worked in a shopatmosphere but it was not an assembly-line type function. There was more movingaround then in an assembly-line production.
However, assigning people outside the complex was seldomdone. This entailed union involvement and was an unusual occurrence. Pickfordis certain that no such assignment existed on 11/22/63. That day is still vivid in his mind.
Asked if anyone might be assigned to the Oak Cliff area atany time, Pickford answered that they had no subsidiaries there, but prior to1959 they did have such a location at Red Bird Airport.Oak Cliff is between Richardson and Red Bird.
Pickford was unable to say whether Mather even worked thatparticular day. He suggested contacting Collins personnel but doubts if recordsfrom 1963 would still be available.
Pickford says he retired from Collins Radio in 1972 and hassince become associated with another firm.
Pickford's impression of Mather is that he was the mostcompetent, dependable man deserving of the highest trust. He considered himoutstanding.
University IowaLibrary
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec-coll/msc/T...cords.html
6. Research Files: Files relating to various researchendeavors carried out by CRC on a number ofdifferent subjects relating to communications and aerospace technology.Includes data, notes and research papers.
7. Subject Files: Files relating to various subjectsinvolving CRC. Includes correspondence,corporate documentation, and documentation from Arthur A. Collins and hisfather Merle H. Collins.
Roy Harkness
TexasDivision, 1958-1965
Strategic Air Command ("Short Order" System), 1960(2 folders)
Collins, Arthur A.: Correspondence, 1936-1973 (15 folders) -[contains letter to AAC from Admiral RichardByrd, May 10, 1936 (copy)] ByrdExpedition Equipment, 1934
Curtis E. LeMay, July 9, 1958]
"History of Collins Broadcast", 1980
Newport BeachFacility Requirements, 1967
Operation T-Bird, 1964
Strategic Air Command Visit (by AAC),1954
Collins, Arthur A., n.d.
Collins, Merle H., n.d.
Collins Employees at Work, n.d.
Collins Equipment - Andrews Air Force Base, n.d.
Collins Equipment, n.d.
Collins Facilities, n.d.
Collins Radio Company Executives, n.d.
Computer Equipment, Cedar Rapids,n.d.
Facility Tour, n.d.
Various Buildings, n.d.
National Security Forum (War College, Air University), 1960
Maritime Radio Equipment, 1959-1960
Griswold, General Francis H. (SAC), 1954-1964 (2 folders) -[contains letters to AAC from General CurtisE. LeMay, November 17, 1954and June 16, 1956]
Far Eastern Trip: Strategic Air Command (AAC),1956
Continental Oil Co./Continental Pipe Line Co., 1955-1956
Boats, 1958-1967 (3 folders)
Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AACSpeech), 1974
Amateur Radio, 1954-1965, 1971 (2 folders)
Aeronautical Radio, Inc (ARINC), 1962-1964
Aircraft File, 1935-1964 (3 folders)
Collins Marine Laboratory: Data Points #1 - 6963, February 1960- November 1961
Collins Marine Laboratory: Data Points #6964 - 9662, November1961 - May 1963
Collins HF SSB Propagation Predictions, February 1960
Research Division, 1960-1963
Program Managers' Handbook, 1964
Employment Applications and Correspondence, 1933-1963 (5folders)
Communications and Data Systems Division: 1960-September1963
Communications and Data Systems Division: October 1963-1964
Alpha Corporation (CRCSubsidiary), 1959-1960
Alpha Corporation (CRCSubsidiary), 1961-1963
[URL="http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012/02/carl-mather-collins-radio.html"]JFKcountercoup: Carl Mather & Collins Radio
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MATHER, CARL, AMOS Former neighbor of J.D. Tippit;employed at Collins Radio Co., in Richardson, T; question re: his auto (1957 Plymouthlicense pp 4537) at El Chico, (re Wes Wise) then same car at Tippit's home 11/22/63.
SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSSASSINATIONS
180-10087-10360
180-10108-10138
7-pages
"Postponed in Full" Box 254
Carl Amos Mather
3/20/78
Route 2, Box 228
Piano, Texas
Residence
Interview:
Have known the J.D. Tippit family since they were neighborsin 1958 on the 1900-2000 block of Glendfield, in Dallas.
Before the Mathers moved to Garland, Texas, in 11/61, they had become goodfriends with the Tippits. Each family had three children and the ages weresimilar. Carl and Barbara would double date on occasion, usually visiting a"family-type Club" involving an inexpensive evening. Never any trouble betweenanyone in either family, nor were they aware of any the Tippits had with anyoneelse.
Their impression of J.D. was that of a hard working mandetermined to provide for his family in spite of the lack of potential foradvancement. Knew he took various odd jobs to augment his income and seemed tospend what little free time he had with his family. Marie helped out bybabysitting for 5 to 7 children on somewhat of a regular basis. On occasion,the Mather kids would be included.
Hard put to recall other Tippit friends or associates in theneighborhood; they do recall "Frank and Angie" living next door to J.D. andMarie, but can't recall their surname.
Wes Wise, the ex-mayor, was a sports announcer at that timeand it seems he had a speaking engagement at "some restaurant in Dallasa short time after the assassination."
He (Wise) was told by "a man" who had in his employ amechanic who was also a part-time deputy of some nature, that this employee, onthe day of the assassination, had observed a suspicious "red ford car" spinningit's wheels and throwing gravel behind a parked bus. The mechanic utilized his"deputy training" and jotted down the tag number and now "this man" was givingit to Wise.
So Wise was calling him, advising him of these developmentsand inviting him to dinner inasmuch as there was another person from the newsmedia in New York, now in Dallaswith Wise to do a documentary on the entire assassination and any interestingasides.
He and his wife met Wise and Dana Bartell, "from the N.Y.,wire service" in the Old Warsaw Restaurant located in Oak Lawn.Dinner and discussion of these curious events didn't seem to accomplish much,as they came away without understanding how that mechanic could have writtendown the tag listed to "Carl's '57 Plymouth."
(Barbara was driving an old Ford station wagon, early 50's,white over faded blue at the time).
Several months later saw the documentary on TV with her namelisted in the credits, but no mention of the tag number episode.
Although they don't recall the exact date of this dinner, itwas so long after the incident, the new tags had since been issued and the oldones discarded. Moreover, it hadn't impressed him as being important enough toask someone to check for him. After all, the F.B.I. had apparently dropped thematter.
Asked to describe the F.B.I.'s efforts, Barbara said thatone day an agent came to the house. This was at 4309 Colgate Lane, the Garlandaddress they moved from 2018 Garlandin 11/61, and he inquired about their tags. She pointed out her tags on the oldFord station wagon and advised Carl had the '57 Plymouthat work.
No, they never owned a red auto of any type. Again shedoesn't recall the date, but it was when the newer tags were in effect anyway.She didn't hear from the agent again and Carl didn't hear at all.
What seemed like six weeks later, a second agent came to thesame house and interviewed Barbara again at home alone during the day andhe, too, was interested in the fact that a tag listed to Carl was observed on adifferent type of vehicle in a different part of town.
When she indicted the first agent didn't understand it,either, he seemed surprised another agent had been ahead of him. This seemed tocause his interest in the matter to wane and he left. Like the first agent, hedidn't return, nor did he interview Carl.
Not that Carl isn't used to being interviewed by governmentagents; he has a security clearance and he has had since he started travelingwith his company he's been with them for 21 years now. Has traveled overseas.His specific function deals with the installation of special electronics gearin aircraft. One such assignment caused him to be quartered in Brandywine, Maryland as he worked for some period oftime at Andrews Air Force Base working on "Air Force Two" Vice PresidentJohnson's plane at the time.
He adds he does recall the date of 11-22-63. He worked all day at Richardson, Texas, Collins Radio Shop. Although the(then) boss, J.A. Pickford, has since retired, he thinks he's still in thearea.
PICKFORD, JAMES
JFK ASSASSINATIONS SYSTEM ID FORM
HSCA
RIF: 180-10113-10265
REACTION TO ASSASSINATION, CARL MATHER,
KENNEDY, JOHN; ASSASSINATION
OUTSIDE CONTACT REPORT
OPEN IN FULL
08/12/93
BOX 256
12/1/78
Telephone contact
Summary: I made contact with Mr. Pickford on this date andreceived the following information, after I identified myself and told of ourinterest in developing a list of all witnesses in the JFK assassination. Herecalls that he represented management with Collins Radio and had lunch insidewith union representatives on 11/22/63in view of the ongoing discussions. After lunch, word came of the assassinationand was initially regarded as a course joke. Later verification brought aboutgeneral dismay and all employees were excused. He stated, "It was plain to seethat no one was going to do any work. It only remained to determine the paystatus." A few employees hung around, but most of them left.
With regard to Carl Mather, Pickford can't recall where hewas at the time of the assassination. He knows he didn't have lunch with him.His job at the time concerned electro-mechanical assembly, which is themechanical portion of working with electronic equipment. They worked in a shopatmosphere but it was not an assembly-line type function. There was more movingaround then in an assembly-line production.
However, assigning people outside the complex was seldomdone. This entailed union involvement and was an unusual occurrence. Pickfordis certain that no such assignment existed on 11/22/63. That day is still vivid in his mind.
Asked if anyone might be assigned to the Oak Cliff area atany time, Pickford answered that they had no subsidiaries there, but prior to1959 they did have such a location at Red Bird Airport.Oak Cliff is between Richardson and Red Bird.
Pickford was unable to say whether Mather even worked thatparticular day. He suggested contacting Collins personnel but doubts if recordsfrom 1963 would still be available.
Pickford says he retired from Collins Radio in 1972 and hassince become associated with another firm.
Pickford's impression of Mather is that he was the mostcompetent, dependable man deserving of the highest trust. He considered himoutstanding.
University IowaLibrary
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec-coll/msc/T...cords.html
6. Research Files: Files relating to various researchendeavors carried out by CRC on a number ofdifferent subjects relating to communications and aerospace technology.Includes data, notes and research papers.
7. Subject Files: Files relating to various subjectsinvolving CRC. Includes correspondence,corporate documentation, and documentation from Arthur A. Collins and hisfather Merle H. Collins.
Roy Harkness
TexasDivision, 1958-1965
Strategic Air Command ("Short Order" System), 1960(2 folders)
Collins, Arthur A.: Correspondence, 1936-1973 (15 folders) -[contains letter to AAC from Admiral RichardByrd, May 10, 1936 (copy)] ByrdExpedition Equipment, 1934
Curtis E. LeMay, July 9, 1958]
"History of Collins Broadcast", 1980
Newport BeachFacility Requirements, 1967
Operation T-Bird, 1964
Strategic Air Command Visit (by AAC),1954
Collins, Arthur A., n.d.
Collins, Merle H., n.d.
Collins Employees at Work, n.d.
Collins Equipment - Andrews Air Force Base, n.d.
Collins Equipment, n.d.
Collins Facilities, n.d.
Collins Radio Company Executives, n.d.
Computer Equipment, Cedar Rapids,n.d.
Facility Tour, n.d.
Various Buildings, n.d.
National Security Forum (War College, Air University), 1960
Maritime Radio Equipment, 1959-1960
Griswold, General Francis H. (SAC), 1954-1964 (2 folders) -[contains letters to AAC from General CurtisE. LeMay, November 17, 1954and June 16, 1956]
Far Eastern Trip: Strategic Air Command (AAC),1956
Continental Oil Co./Continental Pipe Line Co., 1955-1956
Boats, 1958-1967 (3 folders)
Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AACSpeech), 1974
Amateur Radio, 1954-1965, 1971 (2 folders)
Aeronautical Radio, Inc (ARINC), 1962-1964
Aircraft File, 1935-1964 (3 folders)
Collins Marine Laboratory: Data Points #1 - 6963, February 1960- November 1961
Collins Marine Laboratory: Data Points #6964 - 9662, November1961 - May 1963
Collins HF SSB Propagation Predictions, February 1960
Research Division, 1960-1963
Program Managers' Handbook, 1964
Employment Applications and Correspondence, 1933-1963 (5folders)
Communications and Data Systems Division: 1960-September1963
Communications and Data Systems Division: October 1963-1964
Alpha Corporation (CRCSubsidiary), 1959-1960
Alpha Corporation (CRCSubsidiary), 1961-1963