13-03-2012, 09:53 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:I notice that they are pushing the lone nut theory here too. There was more than one soldier doing this massacre.Yes, all the witnesses who survived said there were MULTIPLE gunmen, and WE are TOLD there was one emotionally troubled soldier [who just happened to come from the same unit that did some similar killings some months back!].....typical planned exterminations - perhaps not on the top levels, but at some level above the persons involved - and then covered up by those planners and their superiors [as America would never do such a thing.....remember Mai Lai?]
To repeat my question: When does this leave the realm of soldiers blowing off steam, or some other more understandable motive, and enter the realm of deep politics? Right now: just asking, but the tin foil hat is on.
Lauren, With all due respect to you, it would have been horrible and wrong to the nth degree had some one [or even a group] of soldiers vented their anger [justified or not - I'd say NOT!] at some fighters - these were all women and children killed execution style with a bullet to the forehead and over a period of many hours in distant locations.
If I understand you correctly, I did not phrase this post very well. The "blowing off steam" phrase was referring to a category of rhetoric which serves both to justify and condemn the massacre. That is what we are getting from the MSM now although they have not been using the phrase "blowing off steam." My bad.
Quote:No sudden emotional 'explosion' this! Also, the fact they come from the same unit that was labeled the 'kill squad' after doing something very similar rustles the deep political fibers of my being. Certainly the officials will lie and lie and spin....but I think we'll learn a lot more in the coming days. It will ONLY get WORSE, the more we know - BUT the FULL story will always be denied us [the hallmark of Deep Political Actions]. I'd stake my DP rep on that!
This paragraph speaks to an understanding of "deep politics." If any bureaucratic cover up is called "deep politics," then deep politics is normal and possibly trivial. I am suggesting that there is a distinction between normal bureaucratic dissembling and obfuscation and something more sinister. I suspect you are agreeing with this.
But to take things to another level, the fact that this story is now coming out on the heels of the Koran burning incident, I am suspecting this is less than a coincidence. And it is this temporal conjunction that I am putting forward as possibly the most significant. Who? What? Why? That's all l have. Just some questions.
But let's say a "Christian Crusader Soldiers' subgroup" is active. Who is willing to cover up for such a group or even to allow them to exist? Is this supposed subgroup a black op and who would be running it? Obama playing multidimensional chess? Somebody wanting to force Obama's hand and make him look bad before an election? And maybe just some dumb ass soldiers acting out from their anger and disorders? Something entirely else?
EDIT: I didn't see Jan's post above, but his is exactly what I was wanting to say except more elegantly.
Quote:If it was several soldiers, with a history of visits to the deep black shrinks, then we can consider whether this was a mission to destabilize further the situation in the middle east prior to a first strike against Iran, and to weaken Karzai and embolden the CIA-created Taliban. In other words, we can consider a psyop if such evidence is forthcoming.

