A History of Secret Human Experimentations from ter

[Lauren Johnson]

Bernice, none of the links on Project Monarch are alive. Hmmm.

Here is the Greenbaum Speech which is about ritual abuse, MPD, and programming:

http://www.whale.to/b/greenbaum.html

Lauren - fwiw I spent over a decade extensively researching the "mind control" experimentation programmes. I had the privilege of discussing this research with committed and gifted individuals such as the sadly deceased investigative journalist Walter Bowart and the therapist Valerie Wolf. I also interviewed numerous people who claimed to be survivors of this experimentation.

There is absolutely no doubt that horrific experimentation took place, on men, women and children. It is also the case that once genuine atrocities were being exposed, and on the verge of being publicized, a COINTELPRO style operation took place.

It is my strong, considered, judgement that the two major attempts to cover up these crimes and lead researchers into false territory are the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) and the so-called Monarch Program.

The FMSF represents the attempt to destroy the credibility of victims of mind control experimentation through pseudo-science, with the false science being largely built on the faux work of some of the perpetrators of these crimes, such as Jolly West and Martin Orne.

Equally, I have seen no meaningful evidence that the Monarch Program ever existed. In my judgement, it is a psyop created by sinister forces to destroy legitimate research into these crimes through ever more outlandish claims.

I sketch out some of my considered views in the MK-ULTRA Iceberg thread.

Thanks, Jan. I am re-reading MK-Ultra Iceberg this time more slowly. I note that you reference the Greenbaum speech favorably. Even though D. Corydon Hammond, the author of the Greenbaum speech, does not reference Monarch Programming, he is willing to talk about Illuminati bloodlines and a World Order. He seems to be 95% there. By the way, he no longer treats Dissociative Identity Disorder (was Multiple Personality Disorder).

http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rm...Utah_47737

Edit: Oops. Yes he does reference the Monarch Project. Jan, you are going to have to either re-visit you opinion on this speech OR admit there is Monarch programming.