13-06-2012, 01:50 AM
Charles,
The view expressed about the state of affairs we have today is hardly much different than I have felt for most of my life. I lost my innocence on Nov 22, 1963 and remember attending a talk by Mark Lane and listening to Mae Burssel about how these SOBs operate.
However as much as they would have likes to orchestrate 9/11 I think it was not and could not have been as completely controlled as many declare it to be. I have no doubt in my mind that they were stage managing the show but like didn't know the precise outcome... but they sure did know what the audience response would be. That they were able to control because they are the media! The Big Brother. I think it is more likely that the intel guys knew, suggested and even sort of assisted the dupes but I don't believe they blew the towers up. I don't see the actual evidence of this though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence.
I do know that what many see as slam dunk evidence of CD is simply not... those observations could be from a non assisted collapse. No the planes did not destroy the towers.. no the fires did not destroy the towers... no the low FOS of the steel did not destroy the towers nor the trusses or the flimsy slabs or even the jet fuel fires.. The towers fell because there were several factors which added up to what it took to break the towers and they fell on their own. They wouldn't fall without the plane strikes, without the fuel fires, the weak slabs, the flimsy trusses and the column free long span design the FOS and so forth... All of these were required to make them come down. But I don't think anyone would have suspected this before it happened. And why so many engineers etc. believe it could not happen because none of the factors alone was sufficient.
Some one could have sketched out the convergence of factors and predicted it... but this is so outside the norm no one bothered to... why should they... And what about the MIC /intel guys... did they expect the towers to fall? Did they want the towers to fall and felt they would make sure they did? Did they not really care if the towers fell if they were hit by commercial jets in perceived hijackings and terrorist attacks? I can't answer any of these questions. And neither can any of us out here. We can only speculate on this. And some insist they HAD to have intended to and actually did engineer the destruction. But there remains enough ambiguity in the collapse that we can't rule out either possibility nor can we rule one in with certainty. We need more evidence.
I've not followed the JFK investigation for years but aren't people still engaged in trying to nail the evidence to prove what happened?
We've seen the same behavior from these thugs who capitalized on confusion... it works every time... distraction and chaff and you can pull of whatever you want will everyone's head is spinning. When people are in shock and afraid they are less than rational and will easily be swayed by authority figures who take command. And I still have not received a good answer as to why the WTC had to be completely destroyed to achieve the wars and the GWOT.
just sayin'
Jeffrey
The view expressed about the state of affairs we have today is hardly much different than I have felt for most of my life. I lost my innocence on Nov 22, 1963 and remember attending a talk by Mark Lane and listening to Mae Burssel about how these SOBs operate.
However as much as they would have likes to orchestrate 9/11 I think it was not and could not have been as completely controlled as many declare it to be. I have no doubt in my mind that they were stage managing the show but like didn't know the precise outcome... but they sure did know what the audience response would be. That they were able to control because they are the media! The Big Brother. I think it is more likely that the intel guys knew, suggested and even sort of assisted the dupes but I don't believe they blew the towers up. I don't see the actual evidence of this though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence.
I do know that what many see as slam dunk evidence of CD is simply not... those observations could be from a non assisted collapse. No the planes did not destroy the towers.. no the fires did not destroy the towers... no the low FOS of the steel did not destroy the towers nor the trusses or the flimsy slabs or even the jet fuel fires.. The towers fell because there were several factors which added up to what it took to break the towers and they fell on their own. They wouldn't fall without the plane strikes, without the fuel fires, the weak slabs, the flimsy trusses and the column free long span design the FOS and so forth... All of these were required to make them come down. But I don't think anyone would have suspected this before it happened. And why so many engineers etc. believe it could not happen because none of the factors alone was sufficient.
Some one could have sketched out the convergence of factors and predicted it... but this is so outside the norm no one bothered to... why should they... And what about the MIC /intel guys... did they expect the towers to fall? Did they want the towers to fall and felt they would make sure they did? Did they not really care if the towers fell if they were hit by commercial jets in perceived hijackings and terrorist attacks? I can't answer any of these questions. And neither can any of us out here. We can only speculate on this. And some insist they HAD to have intended to and actually did engineer the destruction. But there remains enough ambiguity in the collapse that we can't rule out either possibility nor can we rule one in with certainty. We need more evidence.
I've not followed the JFK investigation for years but aren't people still engaged in trying to nail the evidence to prove what happened?
We've seen the same behavior from these thugs who capitalized on confusion... it works every time... distraction and chaff and you can pull of whatever you want will everyone's head is spinning. When people are in shock and afraid they are less than rational and will easily be swayed by authority figures who take command. And I still have not received a good answer as to why the WTC had to be completely destroyed to achieve the wars and the GWOT.
just sayin'
Jeffrey