29-03-2009, 07:03 PM
Paul Rigby Wrote:[quote=Nathaniel Heidenheimer]
THESE QUESTIONS...
1) CAN SOMONE GIVE ME SOLID NUMBERS OF HOW MANY US TOTAL MILITARY PERSONNEL THERE WERE IN VIETNAM ON 11-22-63 HOPEFULLY THE BREAKDOWN . ALSO NUMBERS OF INTEL PEOPLE. ( I REALIZE THERE MAY BE AN OVERLAP) I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT OUR SORDID LYING TEXT VASTLY OVERSTATED THESE NUMBERS.
2) CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME GOOD NUMBERS ON THE NUMBER OF DEAD US AND VIETNAMESE KILLED BY 11-22-63.
ALSO PLEASE GIVE THE SOURCES OR AT LEAST PLACES TO LOOK.
How many US “advisers” in Vietnam in late 1963?
Richard Starnes, “It’s A Dirty War,” New York World-Telegram & Sun, 3 October 1963, p.25: “Second, and this may be the biggest point of all, no one has any assurance that 16,000 Americans now in Viet Nam, mostly military, are going to be enough…”
U.S. fatalities as of January 1964:
Richard Starnes, “Enduring the Dead,” The Washington Daily New, 16 January 1964, p.29: “All that is needed is to think of them as numbers, see? Not names, or individuals or people, but simply as numbers. The 167 becomes a statistic that is easy to swallow and, more important, easy to keep down. Twelve lines printed on yellow teletype paper tell me (and whatever other handful may be interested) that the 166th and 167th American fatalities have been chalked up as a consequence of the shabby little twilight war we are losing in Viet Nam.
