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Obama now set to become another war president
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Quote:Do you think Australia ever regained their autonomy from the US after the Dismissal Maggie?
No way.
But we have been such a good little doormat. The outlook of the ruling class in Australia pretty much conforms with the out look of the ruling class in the US. So in that regard is unsurprising.

I was not in the military during those events but according to my former comrades in arms who were on duty at that time and in Canberra they were on the highest alert short of an actual outbreak of war. It was expected that the 'people would revolt' and take to the streets at the actions of the Govenor General Kerr who dismissed the government and installed Fraser by decree. The sentiment to do 'something' was certainly there and thousands of people were gathered outside the parliament in Canberra and in a very black mood. But also on the steps of the parliament was one Bob Hawke then leader of the peak Trade Union body. He calmed down the situation so that there was a nice smooth transition of power back to the people who should have it. After the Fraser government was defeated 8 years later. Bob was rewarded with the Prime Ministership. He was a 'good friend of Israel' and a 'good friend of the United Sates'. A Rhodes Scholar whose father was a poor preacher in the boondocks but he retired a multimillionaire and yet is still thought of by some as the little Aussie battler's friend because he could talk the talk. but his walk was quite different. It was his government which dismantled much of the regulations and social infrastucture. Floating the AU$, privitzing government businesses, deregulating foreign investments in Australia, restricted union activities, in other words the race to the bottom. After him was another Labor man and more of the same. Then came John Howard. He was the incompetent Treasurer in the former Fraser government and a mean spirited quiet bigot of a man with a heart of lead. He was Bush's ideological soul mate. Every Australian 'leader' has begged the US to please take them on the killing missions. It was all the way with LBJ for Vietnam even if no one even knew where it was on the map in those days. Hawke insisted we be taken along for Gulf War 1. John Howard wanted to offer our military to bomb and invade Yugoslavia until Clinton reminded him that Australia is not part of NATO but then he lucked in with 911 and the aftermath in Iraq and Afghanistan and was asked by his good freind G. WW3 Bush to come and play along with Poland and Samoa. Oh, and the UK. Now Obama wants us to stay and play in Afghanistan and we probably will as we've never ever said NO. We even recognised that illegal criminal narco-state Camp Bondsteel and there was absolutely no reason to do so and every reason not to do so if looking at our interests in complying with international law.

And at present we have the embarrassing Mark Regev, an Australian, as the public face of the Israeli death machine attempting to defend the indefensible in the wanton massacre of civilians. And a very weak response from our new government on the recent bloodbath in Gaza.

The US always threaten not to share their intelligence with us if there is a slightest possibility of an independent though from our government. But 1) they don't share it all anyway 2) a fair bit of that intelligence is gathered from US bases here and 3) their intelligence looks like a bunch of BS anyway given how incompetent the intelligence agencies seem to be there.

Don't complain...we haven't messed around with the outback, have we?! :bootyshake:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
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Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 28-03-2009, 08:22 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 28-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 28-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 29-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 29-03-2009, 06:59 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 29-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 29-03-2009, 08:44 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 30-03-2009, 02:06 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 30-03-2009, 02:34 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 30-03-2009, 03:47 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 30-03-2009, 03:48 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 30-03-2009, 03:58 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 30-03-2009, 04:10 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Peter Lemkin - 30-03-2009, 11:05 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 30-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Myra Bronstein - 31-03-2009, 04:08 AM
Obama now set to become another war president - by Mark Stapleton - 31-03-2009, 09:28 AM

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