28-08-2012, 01:51 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Don, you might consider how some of us [myself included] were treated on other Forums after being long time members in good standing [me even a mod]...add to that those trolls we have had NO doubts about. You may be correct that, at times, those who only appear [and may very well not be] awkward, insincere, or naive sometimes get a rough time...often they do not. This is a small Forum, mostly of refugees of one kind or another, mostly fairly advanced on JFK and Deep Politics, generally; while it is open to others, theoretically to all, it is best they sense the lay of the land first and then slowly move ahead.
We are fighting a war and he seemed [to me] to at best be wanting a boy scout secret signal - at worst just to divert and make the forum less serious on the real issues of the WAR for Truth, Justice, and Survival!
Back to my first point. You [and others] did precious little, and still do little [i.e. nothing] to hold those at EF accountable for how I and several others were treated [I don't need an apology, but I did loose 8750 posts I worked on for years -and contacts and some standing in the 'community' totally undeserved [and the aim of the whole conspiracy against me!] DAMN IT!
.....if that makes me and others a bit brittle then all I can say is 'human, human...all too human!'. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired and my country dying, robbing, lying, subverting, spying, and killing. We need strong words and even stronger actions FAST - not 'high-four' signals - even if well intentioned [though my intuition after watching this long thread made me doubt the well-intentioned part. I could be wrong...but if so and even if not so, I'm brittle from abuse on the EF, by my own government and by trolls I've met here, there and elsewhere.] To sometimes being a bit 'brittle' and curmudgeonly, I plead guilty, at times....who wouldn't after what some of us have been through in life and on the internet?!
So, I would politely suggest you get your ****ing Forum 'in order' before you come over here to pontificate to us how best to run this one. You are of course, as is the starter of this thread, welcome to post whatever they like and welcome here. No one has suggested being banned. People have reacted how they felt. I often too don't like what some post here [of the regulars I'm not talking]...but still stick around because there is a lot of great information, and even some attempts at movement to real action. Whatta concept!
As one who took one hell of a lot of unjust heat [and libelous/criminal action], I know how it feels!! Thanks. Rant over.
Cripes Peter, take a chill pill and come up for air. Don is not responsible for what happened to you at EF, and it is not his forum. He makes good points but then I am always trying to promote unity in the research community.
Don I think we treat people fairly here until they go too far. However in this particular case I agree that Mark is being unfairly dealt with. I believe him to be sincere and like many of us trying to figure out just how to make the 50th anniversary and event that will promote change and truth. This IS a war and those of us who are on the side of truth should focuss our anger on the enemy.
Dawn