10-10-2012, 08:27 PM
David Josephs Wrote:The elephant being that "our new backers are Jews"... yet you seem to forget this was uttered on Nov 21, 1963...
"we now have plenty of money... our new backer are Jews - as soon as 'we' (or 'they') take care of Kennedy..." Doesn't that strike you as a little late for the 11/22 hit?
It all depends on when the sponsorship (not meant in the DP way) occurred? As was recorded in conspiracy history a lot of activity was happening in Dallas in that last week. You seem to be creating a strawman that this alleged Israeli influence happened on, and was confined to, the 21st. There's nothing to suggest that, in my opinion, and the theory is still safe, logically.
As I've said before, what makes Echevarria's statement incriminating is the fact that, if you trace the backers of the Cuban actions, they were pretty much the same people all along. The fact Echevarria says "new" backers means that these persons were people other than the previous backers. If you've studied this enough, and read Piper, you would realize that this is highly suggestive that some facilitating force used Israel and Mossad's difficulty with JFK over Dimona to secure their involvement in the assassination. I would even dare suggest that Angleton played this breakdown with Ben Gurion to enlist endorsement through this already-existing Mediterranean underground/Swiss bank cabal. If indeed Mossad had given the green light to the assassination, or perhaps it would be better put 'cooperation', what you would see is an energizing of their pro-zionist assets in the American underground. And low and behold you see a sudden indication of "jews" suddenly becoming "new backers" in an American CIA effort that was dovetailed with Dallas. Let's not be shy here or play dumb. Someone activated it's American syndicate assets in solidarity with this new shadow government and its interests. The main interests at the time being Castro and Dallas. The impetus almost definitely came from the American side. Ben Gurion's problem was exploited in order to take advantage of the cabal's needs. Perhaps Piper is so interested in nailing Israel he ignores the true path of influence, however the network he fleshes-out is definitely accurate to how it was done and to whom the spoils were promised and, later, delivered.
Ruby was an old-time Cuban gun-runner so I don't see him being referred to as a "new jew backer". Echevarria is clearly talking about a new group acting under a new cause or influence.
David Josephs Wrote:To be honest Albert... I do not think one statement has anything to do with the other... the BACKERS were for Homer's group to invade Cuba and obviously Homer knows something about what's going to happen to Kennedy... then again the Cubans had been talking with the CIA about JFK for some time. Homer is adamant about checking into whether Mosley is CIA... his group does not seem to want any more CIA around... if the CIA was working with this group in association with JFK, Homer getting his weapons from the CIA should not be such a big deal... right?
Well, obviously Homer is more enthused about the new backers than CIA. First, we all know the Cuban exiles were inextricable from the conspirators to a certain degree. Their hatred over Kennedy's inaction at the Bay Of Pigs was exploited. Obviously the perk here was satisfaction of the Cubans' needs once they cooperated in getting rid of Kennedy. I think what is happening here is everyone with an interest in getting rid of Kennedy is being given a perk to assure their satisfaction and cooperation in the cover-up. Piper is correct in saying Israel was the single-most beneficiary of Kennedy's assassination.
I feel you are completely missing the relationship Lansky had to the Swiss bank network and how Israel's interests dovetailed with the US syndicate and it's need to get CIA cooperation to regain its Cuban casino operations in order to feed this dirty bank network fund that all three, CIA, Israel, and the mob, benefited from. When you follow the money there was serious mutual interest through the Lansky/Tibor Rosenbaum/Mossad connection. This is where they were getting the money to arm Israel with nuclear weapons.
I don't see anything here that necessarily conflicts with the Deep Political model.