Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[Albert Doyle]

that these groups BENEFITTED from the outcome, and/or simply took advantage of the outcome is not great mystery. But Organizations do not accomplish these things.. people do... the "JEWS" were not any more involved as was the "CIA" yet Jewish people representing the interests of Israel (among other things), and CIA men representing THEIR interests in a struggle against the new policies of the POTUS were most definitely involved... and it branches from there. You wouldn't say the people of MONTREAL were involved just cause people from Montreal are in the conspirators list...

I have no problem agreeing that those involved had many, many connections and they included forwarding the war/weapon related interests of Israel as we are their primary source for just about everything... good for business.
Bu that connection exists with or without Echevarria's statement.

Maybe help me understand how his comment on 11/21 leads specifically back to the Mossad involved in the assassination -= especially the NEW part.
Please start by explaining the weapons list in the Echevarria report (below) and how that relates to JFK's assassination as opposed to invading Cuba... and how these weapons were not discussed until well after the assassination?

I remind you I am NOT challenging Piper... just your contention that Echevarria's statement has to do with Cuba and NOT JFK....

thanks
DJ

You need to read Final Judgment to realize how what I've already explained precludes any need to discuss specious weapons lists. Your entry is regressive and doesn't recognize how what I wrote precludes it. What Piper does is show how CIA used the power and political interests of both Israel and the jewish treasurers of the US syndicate to create a shadow government based on the relationship CIA established with the US mafia under their Operation Underworld. This relationship was reformed with a new Israel-based center during Kennedy's administration. While the persons surrounding the Dallas conspiracy were Cuba-oriented, the funding network was solidly associated with Israel and the mob's jewish treasurers headed by ardent zionist Meyer Lansky. You can't wiggle out of this because it's all based in fact. I personally don't buy this "everybody had a little share of the blame" excuse because all the other groups you cite didn't disproportionately benefit from the result. If you look at Israel it was the main beneficiary of Kennedy's assassination and CIA dovetailed its power along with them. What you are doing, David, is pointing to all the suspects while one has a giant bag of loot over their shoulder and trying to sell that each one had a little part. Israel is now the US military's reason d'etre and the main focus of their power efforts is right in line with Israel. None of those other equal share culprits you cite has the most powerful lobby in history sitting in the middle of the US government corrupting it out of its democracy. There's no argument, as Piper correctly points out, that the point of origin of this Israeli power is the Kennedy assassination and the assumption of CIA power that followed. The correct definition of that increase in power is more nuanced and finessed than your oversimplified version provides. Piper describes it in detail and so far no credible assassination researcher has bothered to refute him via the facts. The facts are what count here, David, and so far, including yourself, no one has managed to touch them. In the end, what is painfully obvious is -that- is what counts the most and everything else is just excuses. Your "guns don't kill people, people do" viewpoint above doesn't account for Britain's unusually low gun murder rate. And for you to suggest that Israel simply took advantage of "the outcome" insults all the information Piper provides to show how deeply they were involved via that CIA/mob Swiss bank underground in advance. Israel was too directly connected to both Clay Shaw's Permindex; Angleton's nuclear smuggling behind JFK's back, and also the CIA's promise of continued funding through that dirty Swiss bank network to not be involved. You can't ignore the power and influence the zionist lobby had on the framework and funding source of that underground government through the Lansky/Rosenbaum/Mossad connection. That's the elephant!

I remind you I am NOT challenging Piper... just your contention that Echevarria's statement has to do with Cuba and NOT JFK....

I don't think you are comprehending what I'm writing. I was saying Echevarria's statement doesn't have anything to do with Cuba. It has to do with zionists influencing the assassination. Until you can explain who exactly Echevarria was referring to you're missing the point. Do you realize not one single person has attempted to explain what Echevarria meant by that? That automatically validates Piper by default, in my opinion.