MP George Galloway on 9/11 - Calls for a new inquiry

[Adele Edisen]

Rivera shows signs of belonging to a very interesting branch of the facilitators in the form of the "Pony Macaroni" "Afghanistan Banana Stand" Gottlieb psy-ops department.

I cannot understand what your statement means. Could you please clarify?

Adele

Adele said Rivera tried psy-ops on her with cutsie jingle lines. Those lines could have a very sinister meaning in the form of hypno triggers they were developing in their creepiest departments. Those hypno-ops programs succeeded in creating the Manchurian Candidate assassin Sirhan Sirhan. Their intention to use those techniques for their most important covert assassinations programs was shown in their need to murder Frank Olsen to keep them concealed. Nothing unclear or confusing about it so I don't see where the hostility arises.


Adele might not realize how close she was to the wolf department and the deepest, dirtiest CIA assassination programs.

Al,

I never meant to mislead anyone on the issue of what Rivera had said, or rather, asked. I don't think I ever said he used "jingles." Maybe others interpreted what he said to be a "jingle", but what really was said in his attempt to hypnotize me to have a visual hallucination, that of seeing Caroline Kennedy on the White House lawn with her horse, a pony she had named "Macaroni," was quite ordinary. That name was taken, I believe, from the words of an old American children's song, "Yankee Doodle". There was nothing particularly "jingly" about Rivera's use of the terms. I don't think his use of the words was of anymore significance than describing what he wanted me to "see," as a measure of depth of hypnotic trance. Hypnotists use different tests on their subjects to determine the stages and depths of hypnotic trance. Inducing visual hallucinations is one technique; inducing odor hallucinations is another, as examples.

The Yankee Doodle lyrics go something like this: " Yankee Doodle came to town, a-riding on a pony. He stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni." There are more lyrics, but I can't recall them. I'm not sure if Yankee Doodle called the feather "macaroni", or the pony was meant to be called that. However, Caroline thought it was the pony.

Rivera introduced the topic by telling me that when tourists come to Washington they often see Caroline with her pony named "Macaroni". He asked me if I saw Caroline with her pony, Macaroni. Everyone knew that pony's name. We went around the White House three times and each time we did, he asked, "Do you see Caroline on her pony, Macaroni?" I never "saw" her or any horse, and I told him I did not the first two times around the White House. However, I realized he was trying to suggest that image to me, and wondered why, so I decided to "agree" to see what he would do or say. On the third time around, I then said,"mmm," which he took for a "yes", and then stepped down hard on the car's gas pedal, saying "Fine. Now we'll go to dinner."

The other jingle you mentioned, "Afghanistan banana stand," as an example of psy-ops operations has nothing to do with me, never having heard that one, so your sentence was a bit confusing and made me wonder what in the world you were talking about. I wanted to understand what you meant, and if that was hostile, it certainly wasn't meant to be. In fact, where did that "Afghanistan banana stand" phrase come from? I did understand that it was just another example of "jingle" talk by you, but I really don't consider Rivera's talking to be in jingles, even if "pony" and "Macaroni" do rhyme.

Perhaps you do not know how immersed I am in information about the nervous system and related clinical matters of neurology, psychiatry, hypnosis. However, most people in 1963 were not aware of the use of LSD as a hypnosis-aiding drug. I knew of LSD because it had been used on mental patients and prison volunteers by the Department of Psychiatry and Neurology at the Tulane University School of Medicine, where I had been on the faculty and did research, but it was used for purposes other than to promote hypnotic trances. I learned of its use to promote hypnotic suggestibility from reading the medical literature on LSD. One paper by a Dr. Colomb at the University of Pennsylvania described the enhanced suggestibility induced by LSD, as did the book by Dr. Sidney Cohen, THE BEYOND WITHIN. I did not find any other writings on LSD and hypnotic suggestibility for many years after those two items as I continued my search, until the CIA's and Army's use of it on witting and unwitting civilians and soldiers became generally known in the 1970s.

I certainly knew something very sinister was going on. I and my entire family were threatened by Rivera. I lived in terror for many years, and when I learned of the mind-control programs of the CIA, I was amazed that I had not been killed for speaking to the Secret Servce and the FBI in November 1963. Perhaps they do keep the names of their informants very secret.

So secret, in fact, that I couldn't get documents pertaining to me by Freedom of Information requests over the years. Maybe the Church Committee, the Inouye Committee, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations had acted, as Good Samaritans, to save my life by refusing to hear my testimony, which my attorney had offered to them. (That's meant to be a JOKE.) I began writing publicly about my experiences in 1991 (November issue of "The Third Decade"), and speaking publicly in 1993 and 1994 at the ASK meetings in Dallas. Some of you may be surprised to know who was in the audience and with whom I conversed at length at these and other later meetings at Lancer and COPA get-togethers.

Not to worry, Al. I do know, and have known for most of these almost 50 years. I have known since April of 1963 what it was all about, and how close I was. For an entire week in April of 1963 it was a matter of life or death for myself.

Thank you for your reply to my request.

Adele