29-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Phil Dragoo Wrote:At 210 above 1237 words insist the elephant is in the room.
Piper presents seven hundred seventy pages insisting the elephant is Israel.
Waldron-Hartmann insist in the seven-hundred-word Ultimate Sacrifice the elephant may be the mob, as does North.
Zirbel-McClellan-Nelson and Larry Flynt's stepson insist the elephant is LBJ.
None of it is compelling but all of the proponents appear obsessive-compulsive.
Additional blue books submitted in the manner of the test-taker desperately faking.
Some aspects of Israel/Mob/LBJ are more suggestive than others but none are adequately dispositive.
Sure, but my problem with this is Piper is offering more accurate information than those posters who deny it. I guess my problem here is Deep Political advocates who use the DP model to deny factual information at the facilitator level. Which I believe is clearly being done here. Perhaps Echevarria's statement is equal to Johnson's alleged statement that those damn Kennedy's won't be bothering me any more. At least Echevarria's was documented. So this really isn't a matter of the Israeli elephant being in the room as much as basic recognition that Israel was involved at some level or that Dimona was used to leverage them in. What this comes down to is most people don't question that Johnson was involved in the conspiracy, at least at the cover-up level. However if you view the facilitator suggestion towards Israel there's a violent resistance (as evidenced here) to even admit the basic facts of facilitator involvement which Piper evidences in credit-deserving detail. If you want to put Piper on the false sponsor pile fine. But don't put his facilitator evidence or those who back it on that same pile.
Quote:Additional blue books submitted in the manner of the test-taker desperately faking.
Some aspects of Israel/Mob/LBJ are more suggestive than others but none are adequately dispositive.
Sorry Phil but in my opinion you can't ignore the gigantic "elephant" Israel has become since the assassination. Nor how it is the biggest benefactor and current partner of that same shadow government that came to be after Kennedy's assassination. And speaking of faking tests, remember the false facility Israel constructed for Kennedy's inspectors. LBJ and the US mob have gone by the wayside since Kennedy's assassination. What has Israel become? Honestly? Mearsheimer and Walt and Jimmy Carter are not Nelson. In the end Piper's facts aren't dismissable either, and that's what counts.

