30-10-2012, 10:27 PM
When an argument cannot stand on its own... the defenders of said argument never cease to HELP US UNDERSTAND... over and over...
as if speaking louder helps the deaf hear better....
Albert and Mark make their case right here in this thread and then repeatedly attack others for examining their presentation with a fine tooth comb... as expected of "extraordinary claims"
Are there indications that Piper is onto something? Yes indeed. the players, the stage, the timing is all there... but the significance he places on this BG/JFK war does not in many of our minds, substantiate the conclusion.
Just as if I tried to hammer home the shot from the sewer drain - for which there should be serious consideration yet very little evidence.. other than players, stage and timing...
I can spend 20 pages of thread coming back at anyone who argues the conclusion stating the circumstantial evidence that leads to a person in the sewer shooting at JFK is strong enough to make my case.
I - personally - will not convince you... or at least I shouldn't...
YOU should want proof... black scuff marks on the concrete in the sewer... someone exiting the drain behind the fence at the NE end of the overpass... SOMETHING...
Something beyond the words of others confirming POSSIBILITIES...
and I agree with Charles... for Mark to state that nothing has been proven or authenticated in 49 years just SCREAMS David Von Pein... and is a sad state when one expects to have an intelligent discussion
about an important aspect or topic and we find we are talking to someone frozen at 2:30pm on 11/22...
THAT WEEKEND Salandria had already nailed it.. within a few weeks many others had published scathing critiques asking
the simpliest of questions....
So PLEASE DO NOT INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE by claiming the WCR is still considered correct and has not been proven wrong - with authenticated evidence... K?
Case in Point - the boys on the WC felt it just fine to state that the SS did their job... How does that sentence read if NO SHOTS were fired from the TSBD??
"(f) Within these limitations, however, the Commission finds
that the agents most immediately responsible for the President's
safety reacted promptly at the time the shots were fired from the TSBD."
Here are the men MOST RESPONSIBLE for JFK's safety - at least 4 seconds AFTER the initial shots are fired....
yes, they PROMPTLY stopped the car and allowed him to be killed WHILE WATCHING...
or how about the 455 items of evidence at FBI HQ all weekend... THAT really helps the chain of evidence in support of the WCR... right?
Cheers
DJ
to conclude - cause this really has gotten ridiculous... - If you can't let the evidence stand on its own... "me thinks you protest too much"
as if speaking louder helps the deaf hear better....
Albert and Mark make their case right here in this thread and then repeatedly attack others for examining their presentation with a fine tooth comb... as expected of "extraordinary claims"
Are there indications that Piper is onto something? Yes indeed. the players, the stage, the timing is all there... but the significance he places on this BG/JFK war does not in many of our minds, substantiate the conclusion.
Just as if I tried to hammer home the shot from the sewer drain - for which there should be serious consideration yet very little evidence.. other than players, stage and timing...
I can spend 20 pages of thread coming back at anyone who argues the conclusion stating the circumstantial evidence that leads to a person in the sewer shooting at JFK is strong enough to make my case.
I - personally - will not convince you... or at least I shouldn't...
YOU should want proof... black scuff marks on the concrete in the sewer... someone exiting the drain behind the fence at the NE end of the overpass... SOMETHING...
Something beyond the words of others confirming POSSIBILITIES...
and I agree with Charles... for Mark to state that nothing has been proven or authenticated in 49 years just SCREAMS David Von Pein... and is a sad state when one expects to have an intelligent discussion
about an important aspect or topic and we find we are talking to someone frozen at 2:30pm on 11/22...
THAT WEEKEND Salandria had already nailed it.. within a few weeks many others had published scathing critiques asking
the simpliest of questions....
So PLEASE DO NOT INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE by claiming the WCR is still considered correct and has not been proven wrong - with authenticated evidence... K?
Case in Point - the boys on the WC felt it just fine to state that the SS did their job... How does that sentence read if NO SHOTS were fired from the TSBD??
"(f) Within these limitations, however, the Commission finds
that the agents most immediately responsible for the President's
safety reacted promptly at the time the shots were fired from the TSBD."
Here are the men MOST RESPONSIBLE for JFK's safety - at least 4 seconds AFTER the initial shots are fired....
yes, they PROMPTLY stopped the car and allowed him to be killed WHILE WATCHING...
or how about the 455 items of evidence at FBI HQ all weekend... THAT really helps the chain of evidence in support of the WCR... right?
Cheers
DJ
to conclude - cause this really has gotten ridiculous... - If you can't let the evidence stand on its own... "me thinks you protest too much"