31-10-2012, 08:55 PM
David Josephs Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:I began re-reading "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" a few days ago. I haven't picked it up since it was first published while Nixon was still in office. Time flies.
Beyond the obvious right wing bias of the author the main tenets found therein are sound and timeless. His observation is astute: that the American public has
pretty much accepted a "sliding scale" of Socialism; where Fascism is National Socialism, Democracy has become "Creeping" Socialism, and Communism is
International Socialism. He properly defines all Socialism as a form of dictatorial government no matter if it is left wing, right wing, or down the middle, where
even then it's only a matter of time. The Deep Political insight he offers resides in viewing Communism as a conspiracy rather than as a philosophy or ideology.
That it did not originate in Moscow or Peking, but rather in London, New York, and Paris speaks volumes. But, I digress. Zionism needs to be seen in a similar
light. It is not Nationalism, philosophy, ideology or religion. It is a conspiracy, first and foremost, perpetrated by a cadre of ruthless individuals who do not even
themselves live in the region.
Greg... I will have to repsectfully disagree with that last bit...
Zionism -
The national movement for the return of the Jewish people totheir homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel. Hascome to include the development of the State of Israel and the protection ofthe Jewish nation in Israel.
Zionism avocated, from inception, tangible as well asspiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions - left and right, religiousand secular - joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together towardthese goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish statein its ancient homeland was attained.
The term "Zionism" was coined in 1890 by NathanBirnbaum.
Zionism IS nationalism and the survival of a race, religion and country... I will concede that the USE of "Zionism" as a lever is a tool used by this cabal....
But most people do not understand the difference...
If Communism dies/fails the identity of a people does not disappear... the US thinks they CRUSHED Communism in USSR yet the people and the country remain (Golitsyn even tells us this was part of the plan).
Zionism is simply the patriotic manifestation of the needs of an Israeli state and people.... just like we have patriots here now and in 1963 who felt that killing JFK was their PATRIOTIC DUTY,
and in most every one of the "CIA influences other coutry's policies/politics" campaigns...
Iran Contra? Patriotic duty
Lying about Dimona - Zionism at is most secretive... an int heir eyes, most necessary for the survival of the Jewish State - REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES ON THE WORLD STAGE.
Greg... I am more than willing to hear you out on your "Zionism the same as Communism" argument...
but at this moment I have to strongly disagree
Cheers... (sure is nice to discuss things without the May/Lamson/DVP off-topic interruptions)
DJ
I will agree to disagree, respectfully. BTW: I did not argue that "Zionism [is] the same as Communism" -- but that the former should be seen in a similar light within the context of my post.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)