Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[Albert Doyle]

HE WROTE:
Just to make it clear I think Piper is wrong in his suggestion Ben-Gurion was the initiating sponsor of the assassination.

and refuses to own up to it.... nor does he bother dealing with all the evidence that points in opposite directions....

Yo Albert... who are the AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN being referred to here, why doesn't Piper ackowldege the REST of the Echevarria report and what does this have to do with Israel? (Maybe why Piper left it out?)

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/ar...&relPageId=369
A little later in the E/Mosley report we find that E and Mosley meet a rep of the Student Revolutionary Directorate (E's "superior" charged with checking Mosley out), an Agent Rogers tells us that lawyer Paulino Sierra may be involved with SRD and that there are allegations that Sierra's money is "hoodlum money but that Sierra has denied this and states that his backers are American businessmen."

{crickets chirping}

My explanation of the validity of Piper's material at the facilitator level has been explained numerous times. David, while never committing himself, agreed with it. David ignores it and once again brings my sponsor disclaimer back in dishonest context. David is finished as a credible debater. He is dishonest because he suggests above my disclaimer validates his evasive rubbish. Anyone honestly reading this thread would know right away that isn't true.

Because David hasn't read Final Judgment he doesn't understand how underwhelming his point is above. The Lansky group Piper describes fully fits both "hoodlum money" and "American Businessmen". The problem here isn't what Piper doesn't acknowledge. The problem is what others like David don't acknowledge about Piper's evidence.

There's no need to 'enemi-fy' persons who argue Piper's evidence. That's silly. I think the response of some people, or should I say embarrassing anti-intellectual non-response, speaks loudest and evidences not only the situation surrounding Piper's claims, but the validity of the claims themselves by the more than obvious universal inability of those who challenge it to credibly respond to the facts. Objective, honest people should see that David offers no sincere attempt to address the real facts or what they mean and only offers unlimited excuses. Really, to reduce this to pure ad hominem witch-hunting is the height of the absurd and those who do it right in the face of their obvious inability to address the on-topic discussion should be ashamed of themselves no matter who they are. As should those who know this isn't right and stay quiet. I don't see how they could fool themselves that the only reason they are reacting that way isn't because they can't answer the arguments. This is the Israel bias embodied no matter what logic they use to fool themselves. I've been on this site for several years yet the only time anyone has ever questioned my presence comes during a discussion of Piper. What does that tell you? Don't fall for people setting us vs them traps. Ask them to answer the arguments. They'll use any response as justification of their predetermined enemy-ization. That isn't right.

Let credibility go to those who can answer the facts. The path to credibility is through the facts and the ability to address them. If there's a war here then live up to it and practice what you preach. No sacred cows.