09-11-2012, 12:40 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:However when you analyse the next column, under the heading military aid to Israel, a different picture emerges.
The total during the JFK years comes to $26.5, an average of about $9 million per year. This was his sale of Hawk antitank missiles to Israel in 1962/63, the first major arms sale to Israel. It was a defensive weapon. The combined total during the LBJ years was $219 million, an average of $44 million per year, a fivefold increase in military aid to Israel compared to the Kennedy years!
Another thing LBJ pioneered was the concept of Qualitative Military Edge (QME). This was the concept that US aid to Israel must try to ensure their ally has a qualitative edge on their regional neighbours.
http://www.meforum.org/1824/augmenting-i...itary-edge
Mark,
David isn't honest and is only going to enter a pro-Israel spun argument. His vigorous emphasis on reference and sources is a superficial tactic designed to look like superior scholarship, but as your reply here shows it is disingenuous and deceptive. Unfortunately, any zionist source like the Jewish Virtual Library is almost automatically dismissible. If David were attempting honest analysis he would correctly involve the Liberty incident in which the same CIA/Israel cabal that killed Kennedy, once again, did its evil business and attempted to murder the crew of the electronic surveillance ship USS Liberty. Mossad agent Amit came forward and admitted CIA agent Hadden had spoken to him and told him that the political winds in America were not strong enough for direct support of Israel in its war with the arabs. Hadden told Amit that if they could sink a US ship that would be enough to bring America behind Israel on a military basis. What gets to me the most about the people who protest this stuff is how they ignore, while accusing others of "aiding in the cover-up" with their political views, that they themselves are the biggest protectors of these Kennedy killers with their irrational hatred of this topic.
What stands out the most here is that since David hasn't ever read Piper he doesn't understand that his Jewish Virtual Library doesn't possess the 'data' he demands in its columns which references the Lansky/Tibor Rosenbaum/Israel Swiss bank underground or its political affiliations. You see David is a man who jumps up and down and condemns you for not providing enough 'data' while being ignorant of the fact he omits the most important data you could possibly cite in this matter. Piper doesn't however. So while David is cooking the books with pro-Israel information and shouting how badly sourced some are he completely omits this critical cabal and its vital connection to the CIA/Israel power that was born out of the Kennedy assassination. This deep dirty money cabal that was connected to the French Connection provided millions in covert money that never showed up on David's Jewish Virtual Library accounting books. That was the whole damned purpose of the thing. So while accusing ME of being like Belin and Specter, David uses their Warren Report method of omitting whole blocks of evidence in his crafted offerings. So while we are asked to listen to David's kivetching protests and heated reprimands, and hear about how poor a case we are making vs his superior entries, David is completely oblivious to the fatal error he makes vs Piper. I would guess the reason for this is because he hasn't read the book and therefore doesn't understand the violation he is committing. No, this subject can't be handled by witchcraft. It has to be handled by the facts. And so far the protesters have failed resoundingly, and mostly by default. Those millions in mob kickbacks that went to Geneva and Tibor Rosenbaum's Banc de Credit Internacional were overseen by ardent zionist and head US syndicate treasurer Meyer Lansky. Lansky was a central US mafia figure. He never did one minute in jail. He was literally the only US mob figure of his prominence to do no jail time. I wonder why??? I think we know what hasn't been denied here...
Do you not speak or understand english "albert"...
No one here is asking you to read (let alone understand) my posts. AND CERTAINLY NOT INTERPRET THEM FOR US.
So rather than stating your case with even an ounce of cited Piper's sources or text... you attack ME ??
Have you no self respect at all?
Have you posted anything Piper wrote in YOUR defense, or as support for YOUR conclusions? Not once.
Have I? Repeatedly.
I have the entire book in pdf... point to something already... I WILL POST IT FOR YOU if you give me the passage...
and we can all see for ourselves whether your intimate knowledge of the book has any merit.
And yes "Albert" what hasn't been denied is a statement of yours you STILL cannot own up to, and the FACT you only offer opinions...
Alot of WOULD BE's and COULD BE's and I THINK's without anything but benign letters and Sy Hersch to back you up.
Maybe you could take a little peak at the 30+ pages of posts aimed at you actually stepping to the plate with PROOF, not just speculation..
Here you go "Albert" more from Piper's book: Sadly, as I search and search thru Piper... I cannot find the support you say is there...
Page #'s please.
DJ
BTW - the word "NERVOUS" appear 3 times in the ENTIRE TEXT. and not once in relation to Ben-Gurion
"BREAKDOWN"? once. "MENTAL" twice... once below and the other related to Forrestal...
If I want to find something in that book, it is easily done.. except if you're looking for supporting evidence of the conclusions.
Ben-Gurion's biographer suggested that there was
no one specific political reason, but that it was his
general mental statemanifested by a series of
panicky, even paranoid, actionsof the previous ten
weeks that led the seventy-six year-old leader to
resign
When we saw the advance publicity for Final
Judgment, which claimed that this book would offer
"astounding proof" that Mossad had a hand in the
JFK assassination, we were a bit nervous. As it turns
out, the Mossad links presented by Piper are
circumstantial rather than conclusive, but definitely
worth considering. Other aspects of the JFK morass
that Piper discusses, such as the Mafia-CIA-Israeli
connection (starring Meyer Lansky and James
Angleton), Charles DeGaulle and his problems with
the OAS, and the spooky business of Permindex, are
rarely treated in other JFK literature.