Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[Albert Doyle]

LBJ "bowed" to no one that was publically known--ever--in his political career, with the possible exception of Averell Harriman. To suggest that the Texan, LBJ, cowtowed to "Israel" is perhaps among the shallowest of intellectual offerings I've read on this forum to date. People of the LBJ mindset don't "bow" to nations. They submit to those rare individuals who they perceive to be more in charge than they are.

Mark, your model of these dynamics lacks foundation and appears based in bigotry.

So you're saying the record Mark has provided which shows Johnson serving Israeli interests each and every time is somehow not a record of LBJ 'bowing' to Israel? Hmm. This entry seems to pivot on a semantic interpretation of bowing and for whom the bowing was done. It seems to me to be a process that uses the strong Johnson when it suits the purpose and dismisses him as being a pawn when needed as well. If this statement is saying Johnson served the real Sponsors I agree. Even Dawn has posted that the Johnson 'Mastermind' thesis is disproven by the fact of RFK's assassination. If you look at the Liberty old cornpone wasn't capable of planning that. The overall pattern of Johnson's doings throughout his presidency disproves any sponsorship on his behalf.

As far as bigotry, this topic tends to be upheld the most by those usual suspects who dislike jews or zionism. But that is a skewed perspective because of the corruption of the status quo and their unwillingness to criticize zionism or Israel. This condition tends to make it look like the subject is favored by the worst anti-semites. Accusations of bigotry should be very carefully considered, however, when dealing with a religious state that practices one of the last major forms of apartheid existing in the modern world. I would even go so far as to say the murder of a catholic Irish president most likely had an element of bigotry itself that goes unseen because of this seizure of the terms. In my mind people who try to bring the blunt instrument of anti-semitism into this topic are ones seeking to avoid the evidence of Israeli involvement as shown in Piper. A person who was successfully buried by that very technique.