13-11-2012, 10:19 AM
Don Jeffries Wrote:Monk,
I don't claim to know Jim Fetzer at all, beyond his posts, some personal messages and an appearance on his radio show. However, his posting style is perhaps the most recognizable that I have ever seen over all my years on the internet. You may be right about Doyle's style changing, but his posts sound nothing like anything I've ever read from Jim Fetzer. Do I have a right to voice that opinion here?
I have no right to dictate to anyone what they have a right to post here. Why would you ask me if you have such a right? Another stupid question. However, as at the JFKresearch Forum, none of us have the right to post here at all. Posting is a priveledge for all who participate here! If I am mistaken about that I'm sure that I will be corrected by Charles or Magda.
Quote:I have no dog in this fight. I'm honestly stating that Fetzer's posts sound nothing like Doyle's, imho.
Perhaps your opinion is uninformed based on your own admissions. There is no sin in that as long as you acknowledge the limitations inherent to same. And based on your admission of being less knowledgeable about these matters, why would you argue as if it was otherwise?
Quote:If that doesn't make me as "deep" as you or Charles, so be it. It doesn't change the quality of my life one bit if what you and Charles allege is true. I certainly understand that powerful forces want to infiltrate forums like this with trolls and disinfo agents. Cass Sunstein acknowledged that this is an actual goal of the Obama administration. That doesn't mean, however, that I have to be comfortable with people accusing particular individuals of being disinfo agents. I've given my reasons why I don't think this accusation makes any sense at all.
Fascinating. If you recall Fetzer has been the champion of labeling others as disinformation agents for committing the sin of disagreeing with him! He was censured by Aguilar, Lifton, Wecht, and even David Mantik, et al--over a decade ago--for making such unfounded accusations.
Quote:And if you and Charles are wrong, and it can be proven, wouldn't you feel ashamed that you made such a reckless accusation on a public forum?
If I am wrong? About which part? That the posts appearing under Doyle's name are now of a nature diametrically opposed to his traditional offerings? That can not be disproved as it is the case. That you don't see it is a function of your admitted deficits. I have made no wreckless claims. I feel no shame about making observations that might otherwise go unnoticed.
Quote:How would you feel if someone kept referring to "Greg" in quotes, and belittled you as being fake? How would you react if a forum you hadn't posted at in a while had discussions about you posting dishonestly in someone else's name? And if anyone ever does accuse you of that, I promise I'll be there to defend you.
First off, if I knew the forum in question was not reputable I would simply avoid it. If it was reputable, I would DENY the charge. Immediately. If I was not believed I would probably go away. But, a forum like this one does not tolerate baseless accusations anymore than they were tolerated at JFKresearch Forum. These are not baseless charges.
Quote:As for my book, it's your choice to buy it or read it. Someone has to publish it first. I find it odd that you just inserted "I won't buy your book" into a discussion that has nothing to do with it.
It has everything to do with it! If I had known the author of "My God I'm Hit" was a loon before I had bought the book, I wouldn't have done it. However, he didn't post on forums until it was too late.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)