16-11-2012, 05:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-11-2012, 07:49 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Shite GB I had it in my head you were always in Miami.
Charles please calm down, I was merely taking the piss out of you fretting about me calling Albert 'Al'. If you can recall I said if Albert is guilty as charged then it is fine by me. I also said along the lines that if he is 'that bad' and he is being dishonest 'then kick him off'.
The underlining point I am making, is that while I may disagree with some of the ways you have gone about things. I do ultimately trust yours and GB's judgements if you think something is up with AD (what an asshole I am in agreeing with you).
I have had some good exchanges with AD in the past. You all know I was actually quite fond of him, yet I always tried to keep him a little at arms-length...it was his running around with Jimi Hendrix shit, his inane pestering of Jim over Janney, not to mention his growing and blatant anti-Semitism that made myself go hmmmmmm.
However, it was not enough for me to get the creeps about him though.
Thus, I have to give Dawn full credit for asking a very plain question pertaining to AD. This concerned where he lived and so on. It was simple yet effective. Albert's lack of a coherent reply and putting images of himself up during this time was telling.
Sometimes, the best approach is the direct one.
As said earlier AD impressed me going after Cinque, Nelson and JF. He certainly found my weak spot ROFL.
Nonetheless, cheers for outing him. After looking at the posts (unless something truly dramatic happens), it looks like you guys have done a fine job.
CD I also owe you an explanation. My comments concerning the 'paranoia' aspect were to do with the passage about 'AD' as Jim Fetzer. Like Don, I was not down with this angle. In saying that, I found GB's appraisals of a Fetzer type 'doppelganger' very, very interesting. In fact, if this has anything to do with JF, I think there may well be something within Greg's observations. Hence, I would have done well pointing out... A) That I had seen GB's take. B) Not to mention your opinions.
I did note CD that in your earlier verve' to jump on the Fetzer pulpit (which you wisely seem to have moderated). You forget that it was actually little old me who was probably the first person anywhere, too voice concerns that Fetzer may have been impersonating or acting out different people i.e. 'Ron' on the Ventura show. I did so well over a year ago, yet you call me 'naive' or 'ignorant'. I will now re-translate that as "Seamus you delightful cherub. You truly were ahead of the pack, how does one praise thee?'" ROFL.
I do not need to remind anyone here, that I cottoned onto how much of a train wreck Fetzer was 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away'. Thus, while I may have been a little dull with AD, I am okay with admitting it. Yet CD (and I say this with a wry grin-not with daggers) how long were you 'ignorant' of Fetzer a far more destructive force?
Look we all cock up in our appraisals of people (my take on Greg due to his association with Fetzer is a classic). We also do well with them (my befriending you CD, I know you cherish every moment we spend). Anyway Bruiser', I give you due credit for your long held distrust of AD (which may well be vindicated). As said addendum, for my part I have always instinctively disliked JF.
If you are bang on, then bully to the both of us I say 'old chap!'
Nope I am not taking the piss out of your age oh silver fox.
Anyhow, enough jabs and back slapping between chums. Let us get back to my first allegations concerning Fetzer's potential use of different ID's.
You probably do not recall the idiot 'Ron' on Ventura's shoddy JFK episode. Well I posted a summation of my concerns on this very forum. https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...asadena+bridge
I shamed myself a little, by cutting something of a deal with the dark side on this issue. It is certainly a lesson in being applying caution where some ones long term loathing of Fetzer takes over. Rash and silly things occur. I honestly do not know if you folk, are still going down the Fetzer road. I admit to being very late in this regard. However, by checking into the 'Ron' stuff rather than going down the cyber route. You may prove or disprove what Fetzer is capable of doing i.e. impersonations. I do not stand by my Ron allegation. It may yield something or nothing. Nonetheless, I really hope we can at least have some discussion concerning the Ventura show. If it turns out he is Ron, I would argue his embarrassing cameo on the show, is more devastating to his reputation than any potential dodgy dealings here. The irony of it all was how many people agreed it was JF or believed he was capable of doing it. That is a devastating appraisal of dear Mr Fetzer.
Understand this I shall not relent. I am going to pester you CD and GB to have a closer look into this.
As said earlier (and I must repeat myself once again). I have no problems if AD, be deemed a plant. Yet if JF has been AD all along, he has had to have for a very long time (I acknowledge this point has discussed earlier by CD, GB and DJ). I have known AD 'Mark I' since around 2009 when he (or 'it' as you would call him) showed up at Lancer (I have been on there since 2006). ADMKI's arrival there as you probably know, was about a year before he turned up here.
Now it appears the question really is/was could a screw up like Fetzer, have the skill set required to be a long-term witting fraud? Before I go there fella's, I want to say if perchance people do find out Fetzer was 'Ron' (which like I said I would love to have clarified). He does not appear good enough to maintain charades past dorky cameos. You have all seen him trip over his lies and distortions within minutes, hours, days and weeks of himself. ADMKI dropped some howlers for sure, but nowhere near as often. I also found myself agreeing with Don's line 'when has Fetzer ever been shy of stepping forward' at least on the forums? The latest prose from ADMKII to me really does show a bit much self-control.
What was the reasoning thrown around for him becoming 'AD' 'He was once a brilliant researcher' Sorry I just cannot abide by that logic. He had one or two interesting articles, but the sum of his other shite outweighs any supposed good he did. One or to swallows do not make a summer (less a researcher). He could not light a candle next to Bill Davy, Gerald McKnight, Jim DiEugenio, and Jim Douglas or dare I say you CD. Hell, I mean Greg who at times also imparted some of Fetzer's better ideas, (when he JF' had them) has long had far more humility and honour in his pinkie than that ingrate. Hence, I think GB does himself a disservice when he mentions JF's encyclopaedic knowledge of the case.
I have seen more knowledge from GB in all areas than that schmuck.
Sure, I may be wrong. You people may well have uncovered that Fetzer is playing the village idiot for laughs, and then donning his Ron and AD disguise by night. Yet Fetzer, from my intensive documentation of all manner of his shite (literally going back some seven or so years). Not to mention my own rather intense confrontations with him (which you have all seen). Comes across less a person running disinformation and more like a guy whose ego and gullibility has seen him become a straw man. Now, in making the 'running disinformation' call I also have to be careful. GB and CD have been clear that they do not regard Fetzer as some operative. Indeed, in the other posts to their cred, they have tried to be cautious in making blanket comments concerning anything much. Sadly, as the debate became a little more heated with Don, the rather sensible statements became lost or garbled. I think Don for some good questions, would have done well to go over their previous posts a little more closely.
Hey, that shit happens on forums though.
IMO 'AD' for all the furore and good detective work from CD and GB. May well (as CD has said) just be a mundane ploy. Whose masters have changed shifts or gotten a replacement with a slightly Fetzerian twist as GB suggested. I hope we will learn more guys, but for now why not just ditch AD. Knowing the game is up he will just be spewing all garbage. Unless there is some other brilliant diversion or strategy you guys are working on (if I know CD he is probably plotting something lol). It all feels rather like flogging a dead horse. I just do not know how much more you will get out of him.

My main concern for all my words, discussing the AD/Fetzer topic. Is just how bad threads containing this thinly veiled anti-Semitic shite make any forum look. I acknowledge that Mark has been supportive of the DPF during past struggles. However, if the entity AD is to go I would also like to see Mr Stapleton depart. His use as a lure for entities has surely expired. Anyhow, I hope this post clarifies any potential misunderstandings. I really hope Greg, CD, and hell even Don could do some digging and look into the 'Ron' angle.
If you want any more info as per my allegations, please email me via my personal address.
Charles please calm down, I was merely taking the piss out of you fretting about me calling Albert 'Al'. If you can recall I said if Albert is guilty as charged then it is fine by me. I also said along the lines that if he is 'that bad' and he is being dishonest 'then kick him off'.
The underlining point I am making, is that while I may disagree with some of the ways you have gone about things. I do ultimately trust yours and GB's judgements if you think something is up with AD (what an asshole I am in agreeing with you).
I have had some good exchanges with AD in the past. You all know I was actually quite fond of him, yet I always tried to keep him a little at arms-length...it was his running around with Jimi Hendrix shit, his inane pestering of Jim over Janney, not to mention his growing and blatant anti-Semitism that made myself go hmmmmmm.
However, it was not enough for me to get the creeps about him though.
Thus, I have to give Dawn full credit for asking a very plain question pertaining to AD. This concerned where he lived and so on. It was simple yet effective. Albert's lack of a coherent reply and putting images of himself up during this time was telling.
Sometimes, the best approach is the direct one.
As said earlier AD impressed me going after Cinque, Nelson and JF. He certainly found my weak spot ROFL.
Nonetheless, cheers for outing him. After looking at the posts (unless something truly dramatic happens), it looks like you guys have done a fine job.
CD I also owe you an explanation. My comments concerning the 'paranoia' aspect were to do with the passage about 'AD' as Jim Fetzer. Like Don, I was not down with this angle. In saying that, I found GB's appraisals of a Fetzer type 'doppelganger' very, very interesting. In fact, if this has anything to do with JF, I think there may well be something within Greg's observations. Hence, I would have done well pointing out... A) That I had seen GB's take. B) Not to mention your opinions.
I did note CD that in your earlier verve' to jump on the Fetzer pulpit (which you wisely seem to have moderated). You forget that it was actually little old me who was probably the first person anywhere, too voice concerns that Fetzer may have been impersonating or acting out different people i.e. 'Ron' on the Ventura show. I did so well over a year ago, yet you call me 'naive' or 'ignorant'. I will now re-translate that as "Seamus you delightful cherub. You truly were ahead of the pack, how does one praise thee?'" ROFL.
I do not need to remind anyone here, that I cottoned onto how much of a train wreck Fetzer was 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away'. Thus, while I may have been a little dull with AD, I am okay with admitting it. Yet CD (and I say this with a wry grin-not with daggers) how long were you 'ignorant' of Fetzer a far more destructive force?
Look we all cock up in our appraisals of people (my take on Greg due to his association with Fetzer is a classic). We also do well with them (my befriending you CD, I know you cherish every moment we spend). Anyway Bruiser', I give you due credit for your long held distrust of AD (which may well be vindicated). As said addendum, for my part I have always instinctively disliked JF.
If you are bang on, then bully to the both of us I say 'old chap!'
Nope I am not taking the piss out of your age oh silver fox.
Anyhow, enough jabs and back slapping between chums. Let us get back to my first allegations concerning Fetzer's potential use of different ID's.
You probably do not recall the idiot 'Ron' on Ventura's shoddy JFK episode. Well I posted a summation of my concerns on this very forum. https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...asadena+bridge
I shamed myself a little, by cutting something of a deal with the dark side on this issue. It is certainly a lesson in being applying caution where some ones long term loathing of Fetzer takes over. Rash and silly things occur. I honestly do not know if you folk, are still going down the Fetzer road. I admit to being very late in this regard. However, by checking into the 'Ron' stuff rather than going down the cyber route. You may prove or disprove what Fetzer is capable of doing i.e. impersonations. I do not stand by my Ron allegation. It may yield something or nothing. Nonetheless, I really hope we can at least have some discussion concerning the Ventura show. If it turns out he is Ron, I would argue his embarrassing cameo on the show, is more devastating to his reputation than any potential dodgy dealings here. The irony of it all was how many people agreed it was JF or believed he was capable of doing it. That is a devastating appraisal of dear Mr Fetzer.
Understand this I shall not relent. I am going to pester you CD and GB to have a closer look into this.
As said earlier (and I must repeat myself once again). I have no problems if AD, be deemed a plant. Yet if JF has been AD all along, he has had to have for a very long time (I acknowledge this point has discussed earlier by CD, GB and DJ). I have known AD 'Mark I' since around 2009 when he (or 'it' as you would call him) showed up at Lancer (I have been on there since 2006). ADMKI's arrival there as you probably know, was about a year before he turned up here.
Now it appears the question really is/was could a screw up like Fetzer, have the skill set required to be a long-term witting fraud? Before I go there fella's, I want to say if perchance people do find out Fetzer was 'Ron' (which like I said I would love to have clarified). He does not appear good enough to maintain charades past dorky cameos. You have all seen him trip over his lies and distortions within minutes, hours, days and weeks of himself. ADMKI dropped some howlers for sure, but nowhere near as often. I also found myself agreeing with Don's line 'when has Fetzer ever been shy of stepping forward' at least on the forums? The latest prose from ADMKII to me really does show a bit much self-control.
What was the reasoning thrown around for him becoming 'AD' 'He was once a brilliant researcher' Sorry I just cannot abide by that logic. He had one or two interesting articles, but the sum of his other shite outweighs any supposed good he did. One or to swallows do not make a summer (less a researcher). He could not light a candle next to Bill Davy, Gerald McKnight, Jim DiEugenio, and Jim Douglas or dare I say you CD. Hell, I mean Greg who at times also imparted some of Fetzer's better ideas, (when he JF' had them) has long had far more humility and honour in his pinkie than that ingrate. Hence, I think GB does himself a disservice when he mentions JF's encyclopaedic knowledge of the case.
I have seen more knowledge from GB in all areas than that schmuck.
Sure, I may be wrong. You people may well have uncovered that Fetzer is playing the village idiot for laughs, and then donning his Ron and AD disguise by night. Yet Fetzer, from my intensive documentation of all manner of his shite (literally going back some seven or so years). Not to mention my own rather intense confrontations with him (which you have all seen). Comes across less a person running disinformation and more like a guy whose ego and gullibility has seen him become a straw man. Now, in making the 'running disinformation' call I also have to be careful. GB and CD have been clear that they do not regard Fetzer as some operative. Indeed, in the other posts to their cred, they have tried to be cautious in making blanket comments concerning anything much. Sadly, as the debate became a little more heated with Don, the rather sensible statements became lost or garbled. I think Don for some good questions, would have done well to go over their previous posts a little more closely.
Hey, that shit happens on forums though.
IMO 'AD' for all the furore and good detective work from CD and GB. May well (as CD has said) just be a mundane ploy. Whose masters have changed shifts or gotten a replacement with a slightly Fetzerian twist as GB suggested. I hope we will learn more guys, but for now why not just ditch AD. Knowing the game is up he will just be spewing all garbage. Unless there is some other brilliant diversion or strategy you guys are working on (if I know CD he is probably plotting something lol). It all feels rather like flogging a dead horse. I just do not know how much more you will get out of him.


My main concern for all my words, discussing the AD/Fetzer topic. Is just how bad threads containing this thinly veiled anti-Semitic shite make any forum look. I acknowledge that Mark has been supportive of the DPF during past struggles. However, if the entity AD is to go I would also like to see Mr Stapleton depart. His use as a lure for entities has surely expired. Anyhow, I hope this post clarifies any potential misunderstandings. I really hope Greg, CD, and hell even Don could do some digging and look into the 'Ron' angle.
If you want any more info as per my allegations, please email me via my personal address.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992

