18-04-2009, 11:09 AM
Magda Hassan Wrote:Here are the released torture memos:
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html
Interesting and revolting reading! Shame on America - SHAME! And more shame that people are not apparently to be punished for all this - and that this in some ways continues [now perhaps offshore, but for us and by us]. It is often said one often becomes like ones enemies. We sadly did during WW2 and have not shaken it, only refined it into a kind of 'kinder, gentler' policestate, complete with torture.
The ICRC has listed many of the things in the memos, in particular waterboarding, as torture. Period.
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