Torture memos here

[Peter Lemkin]

I have little idea how this is 'going down' in the US, but can tell you it is being met with much upset and anger in Europe. Europeans are VERY slow to give-up on America, as they still remember the good from the War and jazz and jeans and stuff like that....but I sense they are coming to a turning point....if Obama disappoints, Europe will go it alone and may even eventually downgrade and then leave NATO. Minus England, of course - our poodles sniffing our butts and wagging their tails on that drizzly little isle.

Isn't the UK the off shore aircraft carrier for the US?

Funny how many of the Europeans fell for that PR campaign. Jeans, jazz, the good war and all. Better late than never. It was only a matter of time. It would be good if NATO went the way of the dinosaurs. What are the Finns doing in Afghanistan for god sake? Their paths would never cross normally. There must be better ways to interact with others than militarily. Still if it takes a Spanish judge to get the US to keep to it's own laws it is good. Maybe the US will eventually learn by example.

Isn't the UK the off shore aircraft carrier for the US?

I believe it was constructed at the same shipyard as Israel now claims to be from.

There must be better ways to interact with others than militarily.

Hey, you one of them *ucking pinko 'socialist symps' that thinks that people can live in peace and just make love/have parties/co-exist - and not make endless war!?! What ugly thoughts you have! - and so far from the 'true path' of the warrior!.....(full of dead burnt bodies, gore and guts)......certainly you have values not compatable with the Empire. "You will be assimilated" - the Borg

Maybe the US will eventually learn by example.

Don't hold your breath. Sadly. [I'm growing cynical that humanity has the luxury of the time until America does so learn to learn.....]