Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[David Josephs]

David, once again, forced off by the facts.



The questions were legitimate and backed by the facts. They went unanswered.



How did these anonymous "new jew backers" know about the Cuban exiles, fund them, and connect with them?



I think the irrational attack on this perfectly reasonable Deep Politics inquiry says more than anything since these are perfectly reasonable questions.

How did these anonymous "new jew backers" know about the Cuban exiles, fund them, and connect with them?

That's a good question - and one you'd need to answer considering they were talking about the invasion of Cuba and not the JFK assasination.

If Jack Ruby was the source of these funds... and for the first time... we have "our new backers are Jews" (you could at least QUOTE him correctly...)

"we now have plenty of money - our new backers are Jews - as soon as 'we' (or 'they') take care of Kennedy"


First off please remember this was told to us by "THOMAS MOSLEY" - who is neither researched or described in Piper's book... His name is mentioned ONCE.

Do you believe it academically sound to base an entire book and accusation on a 2nd hand report of what this man MOSLEY SAYS Homer Said without investigating who this MOSLEY was?
Without presenting just a bit more info on the man and his background?

You may also wish to read thru Rowley's HSCA testimony along with the reports he provided about 2-1-66, Mosley, "Mannie" and the entire point of the situation - arming Cubans for an attack on Cuba...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...Rowley.pdf

How about applying some of the skills we've seen exhibited by Mr. Doyle and actually LOOK INTO THE REALITY of the evidence instead of simply parroting the same line over and over.

For all we know... Mr MOSLEY just made it up... do you have ANYTHING to help substantiate this 2nd HAND REPORT of what someone else said as even being FACTUAL?
And please address why Piper would not be more diligent in presenting more on the background of THE KEY PLAYER in his saga and theory and conclusion?

Does this not border on intellectual dishonesty? just like the WCR's.. "no evidence of...." which allowed them to reach conclusions based on extremely limited evidence?
DJ


p757 or 659 of Piper, depending on the real book versus pdf: this is the ONLY MENTION of Mosley in the entire book...

In fact, it was Sierra who financed the arms dealreferencedon the first page of
the preface of Final Judgmentabout which a federalinformant inside the Cuban
groups (one Thomas Mosley) said he was told: "We nowhave plenty of moneyour
new backers are the Jewsas soon as they take care ofJFK."


http://karws.gso.uri.edu/marsh/jfk-consp...Bolden.txt
Tucker, Edward Z.
Chicago office, stated he was never aware of a teletype message which
came in to the Chicago office from the FBI or anyone else regarding a threat against
the President in 10/63-11/63 [see Bolden], stated that on or about October 30, 1963 he
and Agent Tom Strong interviewed ThomasVallee who was alleged to represent a threat to
JFK which was standard Service procedure to make such visits prior to a
Presidential visits and Tucker had concerns after his conversation with Vallee who had one or
more rifles in his possession and reported his misgivings to the Secret Service office, the
next day Vallee's landlady called the Service office and said that Vallee had told her
that he was not going to work on Saturday (the day of JFK's visit to Chicago) which resulted
in the Service having the Chicago Police Department surveil Vallee, stated that prior
to JFK's arrival in Chicago Vallee was arrested by two Chicago Police officers on 11/2/63,
Tucker's original assignment on 11/2/63 was to meet JFK at O'Hare Airport and since he did
not go to the Service office had no knowledge of any other subjects that the Service
may have had in custody at the time, stated also that if there had been suspects in
custody at that time he was not informed of it nor does he remember the Service taking into
custody any one between 10/30-11/2/63, upon reaching the airport in the morning of
11/2/63 was told that the President had canceled his trip to Chicago but that several Members
of Congress had arrived and the Service had been instructed escort them to the Army-Air
Force Academy game at Soldier Field but thinks he went home instead, when asked about
the 12/3/63 memo he authored regarding Tom Mosley and guns for Cubans "who may be
involved in the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy, Tucker stated
that Mosley was a Secret Service informant known as 2-1-266 who was involved with many of
Latin types but did not remember the outcome of the matter but feels that it came
about after 11/22/63 on 12/3/63 wrote a report on alleged Cuban prior knowledge of
the JFK assassination plot [26WC441; 3HSCA383; CE 2959; NARA JFK Collection
Document # 180-10070-10276 (HSCA 1/19/78 Edward Tucker interview summary)]

MAURICE MARTINEAU:
in 2/63 transferred to Chicago office as ASAIC, was Acting SAIC of
Chicago office in November, 1963 and when asked about the JFK cancelled 11/2/63 trip there
stated he did not recall any particular surveillance of Cubans and only remembered the
name Mosley as a "police buff... who knew where there was a stock of automatic weapons
which some Cubans were trying to buy... and at no time do I recall talking to the
FBI about it" (Joseph Noonan stated that, in 1961 or 1962, Mosley came to the office to talk
to SAIC Martineau about counterfeiting which resulted in Agent Motto working undercover on
it; in 11/63 and also Mosley told Martineau about some anti- Castro Cubans who wanted
to buy automatic weapons [NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10104-10331; NARA
JFK