CIA Targets Education Forum, Conspiracy Section.

[Peter Lemkin]

I agree with this much; there are obvious agents provoc. on the forum, two that I can be sure of.

However to condemn the entire forum for this seems counterproductive and bordering on spitefull. These statements condemning the forum are extreem, and you all know it. Think of some of the excellent posts you have read there. Think of the incredible resources represented by the Spartacus theads.


What ever happened to leading by example and magnanimity? When we attack other forums as a whole-- as opposed to stating our specific disagreements with them over specific points-- we only divide the public sphere further. This divided public sphere is just what enables the State to infliate Mafia done its just as lone nutism become untenable, with nobody pointing it out that this is a fall back position. Fragmented audieces with no common denominator: this is the best friend of coverup.

The question we all need to consider is this: are we letting likes and dislikes become more important than reknitting this public sphere? :bird:

I agree with much of what you say Nathaniel, but this Forum was composed of a group who had a shoot-out at the not-OK Coral with the EF this summer {i was not around then or likely would have also be in the melee} and some were banned or made invisible, some just got too disgusted that the provacateurs were tolerated [a few here I know think they are actively encouraged to raise ratings or other rationales]. There is no mechanism there to eliminate the worst of them and there are some mighty strange rules. To threaten to do something to someone is not allowed, but to just do it is; and people were not even-handedly dealt with. I still post there some - but less than before and the thrill is gone by and large, it seems less that it was before and it lost many of its best long before the row I'm talking about because of the infantile or purely provocational style of all too many. Yes, some very good things are there, but it could be more than it is or ever was. I guess the hope was that here could be such a place, but it is small yet - but much more peaceful. I don't know how large our audience here is - other than the intelligence entities, but I hope it grows. I hope the EF stays up too - would be sad to loose all the information on there. Sad that somethings like 911 simply can not be discussed without endless provocation. But it shows what the Powers That Be are worried about - 911 and some aspects of Dallas, as they know it can bring down the Empire. If only!.....