22-04-2009, 07:28 PM
Tosh Plumlee Wrote:posted on EF Forum
Hopsicker's information and his book is total BS.., and I have told him that, as well as this Forum and anybody else who would listen... as a result I was called "..a Dickhead", by Hopsicker, and he posted on the internet for awhile, ("The Dickheads must be getting Nervous" refering to me as being CIA disinformation) because I would not embrace his book and support it.
And too, he wrote in his book "... he would never believe any thing I (Plumlee) have ever said...", because I would not go along with his theory about Seal, Ops 40, the Mexico picture, and JFK and the activities at Redbird Airport in Oakcliff (Dallas TX).
I do not plan on getting into a pissing match over this... I do not have the time for such debates that go nowhere. If some are really interested in such crap, then they can go back and read what I have had to say about Operation 40 and the Cuban Desk as well as Wave Station aka' Miami Station"... also I have never said Tracy Barns was assigned to JM/WAVE... I have always said he was in Washington DC, at Langley... However the Experts know better than I... and we will let it go at that.
If you want to be known as an "Expert" on Black OPs, or any other matters.., and have a theory... then self publish a book and put all kinds of rumors, opinions, theories, ect.., in it..., and because someday later its found in a book, then you will be quoted as an expert on the subject matter. Although your information is badly flawed, lacks Facts and void of solid references, but because it is found in print, then it must be true. To me this is a dis service to history and the truth thereof. AND I want no part of being associated with that type of research.
Tosh, calma amigo. We'd like to know what you can tell us about the photo and the real deal on Op 40 and/or its supposed players - what they were really doing or not. I'm not wed to Hopsicker's take. I just want to know. I don't believe you've identified anyone in the photo except yourself, but I could be wrong. Someone suggested:
Tosh Plumlee second on right
Felipe de Diego third on right
George Robreno fourth on right
Barry Seal third on left
What was the occassion and the mission just finished or about to begin? If you can't say, can you suggest why? [here or privately]. I can easily see why you don't like Hopsicker. Forget him and help us understand this history you LIVED and we try to know about.........
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