05-02-2013, 06:54 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:LR Trotter Wrote:Ms Edisen,
I have not thoroughly read the complete post, but the Affordable Care Act is set to be in place by 2014, I believe. The legislation had only the first 2 years of President Obama's first term to get passed into law. That includes the need for 60 votes in the U S Senate to bypass filibuster and bring the bill up for vote. As I am sure you know, the law would not have cleared the House of Representatives after the new Congress took office in January, 2011. But, I watched the U S Senate Committee hearings that had endless discussion and countless amendments in each committee before passing out of each committee. I believe there were amendments that were offered and approved, but the Senator offering the amendment then voted against the bill in committee. But after a struggle, the bill came to the floor and with 58 Democrats and 2 Independents to reach 60 votes, the bill was allowed to become law. Yes, it is imperfect, but unless someone is faced with the need to purchase individual health insurance, they really do not understand the problem with the current system. Medicare for all would be my preference, but it was not an option in 2009-2010. As it is, the tax payers subsidize healthcare premiums for those that have it. And, some of those taxpayers have no insurance. But, mainly, the ACA was the only available choice at the time, and "starting over" was not an option at all. It is my hope, a single payer system will replace what is available now and in 2014, but that itself will be a struggle.
pinwheels:
A naive wish. IMHO. You don't understand where power lies Larry. Unless the People were to DAMAND [with demonstrations et al] NOTHING more will be done...perhaps less. It was a favor to the Insurance companies who work with the banks..it was NOT an attempt to help anyone with health insurance - despite the false PR exercise. Period. Obama works for his masters on all subjects. He is a Trojan Horse, face it. On all levels those in power are now active taking away from the Populace - not in anyway helping them out or bowing to their
wishes. Can you site one? I cannot.
Mr Lemkin,
I try my best to post polite opinions and questions, and would not even consider a reply to one of your posts that you are naive, and I certainly would not suggest what you do or don't understand. You do not know me sir, but I make no claims of brilliance and was stating an opinion about what reform was available in the mentioned time frame. And, I stand by my statement. You said, "unless the people were to DAMAND [with demostrations et al] NOTHING more will be done...perhaps less". Did you mean "DEMAND"? That's all fine and good, but where are they now? With the amount of uninsured, I believe any reform has to be an improvement. If it is so great for the insurance companies, why all the resistance? The main thing is, I was responding to Ms Edisen's post with an opinion, and I resent the fact that you climb up on your high horse and talk down to me. Yes, I do lack formal education, but life has taught me many lessons. I also know that this post, by going against the chosen, will likely put me in the doghouse. Oh well, that's just the way it goes. Have a wonderful day.
Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch