13-02-2013, 08:21 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Maybe in the ceiling above the step ladder? I wonder where that came from -- perhaps an old man who had long ago lost contact with reality?:
Allan, you're not seriously offering that stuff as proof against the Douglass version? I read your Martin Hay-like offerings and they seem to me to be defense lawyer-type nitpicking and character attacks that doesn't come anywhere close to disproving the Douglass version. Seems to me like you have quotes showing there were witnesses to Pitzer having possession of films that showed wounds contrary to the Commission's evidence. I also find it wrong to speak of Dan Marvin that way when he is mostly-likely a hero who came forward and told the truth about critical evidence. I actually take offense to it from someone who poses themselves as a conspiracy exposer. Which is my main problem with the now-disappeared Jim. Jim said to turn it over to Allan. Allan hasn't offered anything. I'm failing to see how Pitzer's murder doesn't dovetail completely with other murders of JFK assassination witnesses? Those parsing corrections don't overturn the obvious truth you yourself have shown. What kills me about this is how Jim doesn't realize he is taking the position of those who attacked Garrison in this case.
An excerpt follows from
http://www.manuscriptservice.com/PitzerFiles/
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CAVEAT LECTOR
The books mentioned already [5] deal briefly with LCDR Pitzer's death from a pro-homicide persective. In 1995, ex-Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Marvin authored an article in the JFK-research journal The Fourth Decade in which he claimed to have been solicited, in 1965, by a CIA agent to assassinate William Pitzer [6].A more comprehensive treatment of the case by author Kent Heiner [7] also takes a pro-murder stance, with emphasis on Daniel Marvin and his claim that he was asked, but refused, to "terminate" Pitzer. The sixth edition of the television series The Men Who Killed Kennedy includes a segment on Pitzer's death and Marvin's claim [8]. Another made-for-television documentary, which hasn't been shown in the United States, Kennedy's Assassination: 13th Version, also includes a segment on Pitzer with an interview with Marvin; it contains several inaccuracies [9]. All of these treatments of the case suffer similarly: none draws on the evidence in the death-scene and autopsy photographs. Several of them are based on the errant assumption that William Pitzer was left-handed.
A recent discussion of the Pitzer case, and Daniel Marvin's claimed role, is in JFK and the Unspeakable [10]. The five-page treatment is firmly pro-homicide. In this otherwise excellent treatise on the Kennedy assassination, author James Douglass chooses to ignore the most recent forensic evidence and emphasizes the Marvin component. Although Douglass makes several references to William Law's book, In the Eye of History [11], the pro-suicide content in the appendix of that book is passed over.
SYNTHESIS
In a discussion of the "putative" Pitzer movie of the autopsy on President Kennedy's body, I made a case for it being generated via a closed-circuit television feed from Walter Reed Hospital [12]. Since then, new appraisals of the available evidence -- from James Rinnovatore [13, 14] and Doug Horne [15] -- suggest that alterations of President Kennedy's wounds occurred at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Although the available evidence suggests that William Pitzer killed himself, it is possible that he was responsible for recording on film the pre-autopsy on President Kennedy's body [16].
[7] Heiner K (2004) Without Smoking Gun. Walterville, OR: Trine Day.
[8] The Men Who Killed Kennedy Part 6. Here.
[9] Eaglesham A (2004) Coverage of the Pitzer case in the Documentary Kennedy's Assassination: 13th Version. Here.
[10] Douglass JW (2008) JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters. Maryknoll, NY: Orbis.
[11] Law WM Eaglesham A (2004) In the Eye of History. Southlake, TX: Lancer.
[12] Eaglesham A (2007) The Putative Pitzer Movie: A Discussion. Here.
[13] Rinnovatore J (2009) JFK 11/22/63: Body/Casket Chicanery at the Bethesda Morgue. Here.
[14] Rinnovatore JV (2010) JFK 11/22/63: Where Was the Throat Wound Altered? Here.
[15] Horne, D.P. (2009) Inside the Assassination Records Review Board, e.g. pp. 1003-1006. Self-published.
[16] Rinnovatore JV Eaglesham A (2010) JFK 11/22/63: Who Took the Pre-Autopsy Photographs? Here.