17-02-2013, 08:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 17-02-2013, 09:25 AM by Adele Edisen.)
Refer go Phil Dragoo's Post #39:
Phil,
You are right, Hoover says "fifth floor" many times during his conversation with President Johnson. He never mentions the sixth floor, but he is obviously referring to it, but calling it the fifth floor.
So you noticed the repetition of it and this caught my eye when I read your post more than a week or so ago, because Jose Rivera also referred to the fifth floor, saying "and there'll be some men up there" when he created the sketch showing me where "it" would happen, that being indicated by an large letter "X" below and to right side of the square representing a building. This is what I told FBI Special Liaison Agent Orrin Bartlett and Secret Service Agent John W. Rice when they interviewed me on Sunday, November 24, 1963, five days before this conversation between Hoover and LBJ took place, so Hoover must have had Orrin Bartlett's report of my interview and the "fifth" floor as called by Rivera. I don't know of any other source Hoover might have had other than Bartlett's at that time.
I think Rivera, being from Peru, had learned to count building stories in a different way than how most Americans do it, We count the land-level floor as the first floor and the next higher level as the second floor, and so on. In Europe and South America, our second floor level is their first floor, the land-level floor, is their lobby or atrium. Using that method of counting would make our sixth floor their fifth floor.
Adele
P.S., Phil, I will get back to you about your posts #73, 82, and 91. Good stuff.
Quote:http://history-matters.com/archive/j...r_11-29-63.MP3
http://history-matters.com/archive/j...1963_0236a.htm
TELEPHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND J. EDGAR HOOVER November 29, 1963 1:40 p.m.
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Hoover keeps saying the fifth floor.
Phil,
You are right, Hoover says "fifth floor" many times during his conversation with President Johnson. He never mentions the sixth floor, but he is obviously referring to it, but calling it the fifth floor.
So you noticed the repetition of it and this caught my eye when I read your post more than a week or so ago, because Jose Rivera also referred to the fifth floor, saying "and there'll be some men up there" when he created the sketch showing me where "it" would happen, that being indicated by an large letter "X" below and to right side of the square representing a building. This is what I told FBI Special Liaison Agent Orrin Bartlett and Secret Service Agent John W. Rice when they interviewed me on Sunday, November 24, 1963, five days before this conversation between Hoover and LBJ took place, so Hoover must have had Orrin Bartlett's report of my interview and the "fifth" floor as called by Rivera. I don't know of any other source Hoover might have had other than Bartlett's at that time.
I think Rivera, being from Peru, had learned to count building stories in a different way than how most Americans do it, We count the land-level floor as the first floor and the next higher level as the second floor, and so on. In Europe and South America, our second floor level is their first floor, the land-level floor, is their lobby or atrium. Using that method of counting would make our sixth floor their fifth floor.
Adele
P.S., Phil, I will get back to you about your posts #73, 82, and 91. Good stuff.