02-03-2013, 04:17 PM
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Charles, if what you are implying was true, then, in the example I used, the so-called "surge" would never have been implemented. And Vietnam would never have lasted as long as it did.
I'm not following you, Jim.
Each circumstance/conflict is unique -- albeit with the common denominators of war profiteering and addictions (to drugs and oil) servicing.
Profitable business ventures are supported until the profits dry up. Bankruptcy ensues. Venture capital is re-assigned.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Since by about 1967, even the CIA wanted out.
The wishes of the hammer are of no consequence to the carpenter, contractor, architect, and client.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:There is a famous memo by Helms to McNamara in which he says that the USA would be better off leaving than staying in.
There is a famous report by the U.S. government in which it is concluded that LHO alone killed JFK.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:And in fact, LBJ wanted to get out at this time. But his efforts were stymied by Nixon and the Chennault back channel during the 1968 election. This is another example of what I was talking about, splits in the power elite. Therefore, the war continued on for 7 more years.
Are you seriously suggesting that LBJ and RMN -- and even Claire Chennault -- helped comprise a "power elite" that called, among other shots (intended), JFK's assassination and the prolongation of the Vietnam War?
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:This is why, for example, I don't have much patience for Alex Jones. As Seamus pointed out in his article about him, Jones tries to insinuate that there is this New World Order consensus about the universe which stems from these Power Elite groups like the Bilderbergers etc.
Straw man fallacy here, Jim. Jones is worthless.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:I think that there are divisions within this ruling class.
As there are among all groups of human beings -- and for that matter, within individuals. Not exactly a EUREKA! moment here.