27-04-2009, 03:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 27-04-2009, 05:25 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
David Guyatt Wrote:I have about as much nouse on these things as a cake fairy, but I did notice the following alarum. Whether it has any validity or not I have no idea. Better minds than mine need to enquire.
http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1986
Quote:Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!
by paulb on Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:33 am
Do Not Take A
Swine Flu Vaccine!
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
4-25-9
Hello Jeff -
I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.
Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.
Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.
There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.
An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when out and about during epidemics. Don't be afraid of "looking odd." I would not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using them.
A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. personal hygene supplies and don't forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.
So, please, people, DON'T TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU.
Pat Doyle
Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health
She raises some real and possible issues of concern. I'll try to research the specifics and get back soon on this. I do remember in my Public Health training reading about persons who got influenza and influenza-like diseases from vacines and there have been many flu and other such cases especially among the military, who often forces soldiers to take multiple shots and some very experimental vacines, at that. Remember however she has a DVM degree and I'd rather trust a PhD in virology from a private university who is not under government contracts.
Meanwhile...
Quote:it is now in Europe too: Spain reports three suspected cases of swine flu------------------------------------------
4/26/2009 18:34:39 · by TaraP · 7 replies · 494+ views
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-0...262784.htm ^ | April 27th, 2009
MADRID, April 26 (Xinhua) -- Spanish Health Minister Trinidad Jimenez said on Sunday that three Spanish nationals had developed symptoms similar to swine flu a few days after they returned from a Mexico trip. Currently, the three were placed in isolation and treated at different hospitals, said Jimenez. They were in stable conditions, but it is unclear if they were indeed infected with swine flue and medical personnel are analyzing their cases to come up with definite diagnosis as soon as possible, she added. The three came from the northern city of Bilbao, Almansa in the southeast.
I'd suggest anyone worried get some fine-filter face masks, some comfortable surgical gloves and lots of liquid surgical disinfectant for hand cleaning and cleaning of surfaces. The flu shots and medicines should only be used at the last moment, if needed and under the advice of a trusted doctor - or two. I've not heard of side-effects of Tamiflu, but that doen't mean there aren't any. Flu shots have been, at times, the cause more than the cure...but in a life and death risk situation it can come down to a hobsons choice and difficult decision for the layman.---------------
Perhaps unrelated, but.....
Quote:Military Industrial Complex Prepares Mass Graves for U.S. Citizens
http://www.infowars.com/military-industr...-citizens/
March 25, 2009
A usually quiet U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Cemetery, has been unusually active lately. The National Memorial Cemetery of Arizona is a beautiful 225 acre facility located in Phoenix.
For the past 30-45 days in the early hours of the morning until sunset, a massive construction operation has been underway. Major amounts of earth have been excavated out about 9-10 feet deep and 600-1000 feet wide. There is multiple locations on the property like this. From the satellite view there appears to be more sections that have been covered with the concrete lids and backfilled to look as if nothing is there. ABC rock is put in place under the burial vaults for good drainage and solid bedding. This will help not contaminate ground water sources from decomposition of human bodies.
The cleanliness of the heavy equipment operation and the large perfect cuts of earth is im pressive. These Massive concrete boxes are transported from a nearby storage yard on various privately owned flatbed semi-trucks, then unloaded and put into place a half mile away at the actual mass grave site. They are installed tight together side by side with no space in between.
An interview was conducted between my friend and a truck driver involved in this operation. After beating around the bush for ten minutes, the driver admitted “ I got paid a whole lot of money to speak good english.” Take it for what it’s worth but that sounds suspect. The truck driver also admitted “Each burial vault holds four caskets.”
I took note that if caskets were not used you could fit 40 bodies or more in each one.
So if these were to hold four troops each and the truck driver did know what he was talking about; this would mean that there are plans in advance for over 4000 U.S. soldiers deaths.
If these are not to contain caskets and only bodies are inserted there could be room for over 40,000 civilians bodies.
See additional photos: photo 1, photo 2, photo 3, photo 4.
The latest figures suggest that the number of deaths and number of people admitted to hospital from what is believed to be swine flu continue to increase by about 25 per cent every day.
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