04-05-2009, 05:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-05-2009, 05:39 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Linda Minor Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:I'm sure more can be done, didn't mean the work was complete. In fact, I don't know of anyone else who's even seen and commented on the quality of Jay's work other than Walt - who did tell me some general things - but I'm not at the moment inclined to necessarily believe - though it could be true. He said much of it was geneological work-ups. Walt also most recently [just before the public letter from Charles on the internet] that Jay's work was 'mostly useless' - possible - but I really doubt it. I meant that the basics of who Seiwell was, for example, and how he tied-in with the TX-MI over time; DPD; CIA; anti-Castro Cubans; Texas rich and right; others we know about; Tosh; etc. must be done well beyond where we generally are now. And many other TX and Dallas players or those suspected of having been. One can always do more and more documents are always becoming available - although fewer people remain. Linda, was your friend able to in any way evaluate the general quality of Harrison's research?
Based on what my friend who worked with Jay told me about what they did together over a period of months, I would have to agree that much of what Jay left for Walt was genealogical work, which he saved in a format in a software program that cannot be quickly converted to html. And he didn't explain how the genealogy fit into other research he did. Much of it was guesswork; the kind of stuff I also do, which involves searching for possible connections between people. I'm sure that is what Walt would have meant by "useless," because Jay didn't throw out anything after he looked at it and discarded it, just in case he would find later it did tie back in.
My friend idolizes Jay to the this day, suspecting, but not being quite sure, that Jay knew much more than he would ever say, given the fact that he was so totally paranoid. In fact, Jay cut off relations with my friend, dropped him flat, just as he had done Richard Bartholomew earlier, because my friend mentioned to Jay that he had discovered his middle name! Jay was that suspicious of everyone, and he researched everyone. That's why the research he left is so voluminous.
When one sees the interconnections by marriage, friendships and families that go on, geneological work could be very helpful, indeed. While I hear Jay did lots of that, he also tracked the connections and activities of many of those we are all interested in, but made VERY little of this available to others in his lifetime! So, a huge body of knowledge done by someone who could have a drink with an old DPD or MI guy and not arouse their suspicions that he was a 'researcher' per se - just shooting the breeze on old things.....
If Walt finds this stuff so useless one would think he'd be glad to get rid of it. I find that comment of his misleading.
I'm told by Walt that the Plumlee materials are at least 4.000 pages - perhaps more. There would be another similar amount on the Rambler and yet another on Seiwell, etc. It can't all be geneology!...
Tosh was set-up twice on bad check charges and I worked with him on the second occassion and proved to my satisfaction that it was manufactured out of 'whole cloth' and had no basis in fact. I assumed the same was done the first time, as well; and that this was SOP - and done to distance and discredit covert operatives [making them look like common criminals], as well as make sure they kept their mouths shut and knew they could be manipulated at will and do nothing about it.
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