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US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:This is how Verizon, et. al. can say they are not directly letting the USG have access to their data:

I don't see anyone out there with this theory, and TPM is my favorite news source, so here goes: "PRISM" is the government's name for a program that uses technology from Palantir. Palantir is a Silicon Valley start-up that's now valued at well over $1B, that focuses on data analysis for the government.
With my theory in mind, re-read the denials from the tech companies in the WSJ (emphasis mine):
Apple: "We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers…"
Google: "… does not have a back door' for the government to access private user data…"
Facebook: "… not provide any government organization with direct access to Facebook servers…"
Yahoo: "We do not provide the government with direct access to our servers, systems, or network…"

These denials could all still be technically true if the government is accessing the data through a government contractor, such as Palantir, rather than having direct access.
I just did a quick Google search of "Palantir PRISM" to see if anyone else had this theory, and the top results were these pages:

https://docs.palantir.com/metropolisdev/...rview.html
https://docs.palantir.com/metropolisdev/...mples.html

Apparently, Palantir has a software package called "Prism": "Prism is a software component that lets you quickly integrate external databases into Palantir." That sounds like exactly the tool you'd want if you were trying to find patterns in data from multiple companies.

So the obvious follow-up questions are of the "am I right?" variety, but if I am, here's what I really want to know: which Palantir clients have access to this data? Just CIA & NSA? FBI? What about municipalities, such as the NYC police department? What about the governments of other countries?

What do you think?

FWIW, I know a guy who works at Palantir. I asked him what he/they did once, and he was more secretive than my friends at Apple.

PS, please don't use my name if you decide to publish any of this it's a small town/industry. Let them Prism me instead.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/20...?ref=fpblg



Apparently Palantir is a CIA start up.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Sure is.
[URL="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/06/palantir-prism-nsa/66013/"]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/06/palantir-prism-nsa/66013/

A[/URL]nd then Palantir can deny they have a relationship with the NSA because they will have a relationship with some NSA cut out or front company.
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