Did Muslims Attack America on 9/11?

[Jeffrey Orling]

Jeff said:

Adele is no different here of course. She simply is clueless and a parrot posting and linking to others who link and quote others who don't know what they are talking about.

Jeff, are you ill?

This "clueless parrot" asks you, Jeff:

Just how much physics and chemistry have you studied? Dr. Enrico Fermi was one of the many fine scientists who educated me in the sciences.
You should read what the Architects and Engineers, some who built the Towers, have to say.

http://ae911truth.org. Do some homework and try to learn something.

Adele E.U. Edisen, Ph.D.

That's quite a name to have on your vitae Adele.

I've only got crooked bankers on mine...

Mr. Guyatt,

My point is simple. Being educated and intelligent in one field or several, does not make one competent in another. I am an architect for 40 yrs, a former board member of AE911T, but I am not a physicist, a chemist, a materials scientist, a forensic investigator. My own technical education and career allows me a bit of advantage in understanding structures and structural failures.

And I worked for the Emery Roth & Sons in 1970, architects of the twin towers during the period when they were being designed and built. This doesn't make me an expert. But it does make me realize how little most know about those towers including the signers of AE911T's petition asking for a new investigation.

Yes the first go round of investigations was flawed and contain missing information and errors made inadvertantly or intentionally for some unknown reasons. There's a lot of misunderstanding about those structures and how they came down.

I don't know Ms Edisen's background as related to engineering or physics. I don't question her intention, and understand how she and others have been essentially fooled by all manner of false information coming from almost every direction about the destruction of the WTC. I was making the point that she was simply posting an article, presumably because she believed it to be factual and I doubt she was competent in the relevant technical disciplines to understand the issues and how the conclusions were made.

Who is Ibn e Abdul Haq? What are his qualifications? Should any article appearing on the www be posted in this discussion giving it a sort of imprimatur and credibility?

I have gone after Lemkin for doing the same thing... parroting. DRG has made a new career out of quote clipping and connecting dots. Do you think a retired theology professor should be considered an expert and the collapse of a steel structure? Sure he can publish. But his opinions need to be considered for what they are... those of a layman, an amateur and one with a political agenda which is influencing his thinking.

I am not giving a pass to NIST or FEMA either. But let's try to be serious in scholarship and research and look for rigorous scientific work... and not be fooled by junk science trying to pass as the real deal. You've seen what a loose cannon Fetzer is, no?

Go read the Where did the Towers Go now in the bear pit.... (it should be restored) where you can see all manner of smart idiots revealing themselves.