US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance

[Peter Lemkin]

Why is this a scandal now? Big data surveillance has been going on for a decade if not longer. It was made public six or seven years ago. Sure. The easy answer is that Glenn Greenwald in the Gaurdian put out some articles. Is that all? Just an intrepid reporter, who by the way is and his courageous newspaper -- end of story? Are there magic hands making the story happen?

You knew, I knew, we on this Forum knew...but all too many Americans did not or were in denial. Now, it is pretty difficult to be in denial about both the fact and EXTENT of the electronic spying! As to why now it 'surfaces' I don't know, and such things as that usually come out months or years later - if at all. I really don't care. It could be some internecine warfare or a hidden whistleblower or an 'I don't care if you know - there is nothing you can do about it' attitude. I just want Americans and all World Citizens to rise up against it by any means at their disposal! [i.e. Sieze The Moment!] If anyone believes they don't do certain spying on Americans, or that they don't intercept and record for all time the entire content, I have a nice bridge in Manhattan to sell you, cheap.

Last night I was reading the Tor Wiki [not an easy read!] and their attempts to stay one step ahead of NSA and their ilk. It is not easy, and likely not possible, entirely. Very difficult if you use Windoz; a fighting chance if you use Linux [but, you have to be rather computer savvy - Tor is NOT easy to set up securely unless you greatly simplify you computer system or follow pages and pages of do's and don'ts]!!!