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The Splintering Frame
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Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Hello David & Magda,

The World Teacher has come and gone and barely made a ripple upon the current of "this." The paradox of Krishnamurti's being, his message to the world: You are responsible for "this." Change it now. Awaken and change. Not ideologically. Not theoretically. Not tomorrow. What anyone else was/is or wasn't/isn't, doesn't matter. What matters is you. Here. Now.

Part of why Krishnamurti parted ways with the Theosophical Society and dissolved The Order of the Star, was that they all felt he was to do the work for them. When he pointed to their responsibility, there was disappointment, and the whole project that Blavatsky had foretold was branded a failure. The story of Madame Blavatsky, Theosophy and the World Teacher is superficial they way it's told and understood. Much like the Kennedy assassination itself.

I've made more than my share of posts here lately. I know that if I said these things elsewhere, I'd be torn to pieces. But, this is a place where friends come to share and explore, no?

I'm interested in discovering how I feel about all this. It's as if I put it into words, perhaps I will understand it better. But, in just about every post I have made, I've underlined my feeling of the personal responsibility we all have for the creation of a new world, for the awakening of total mind/being. There is no one else to do the work for you. That is a very old game. And, if we are responsible for this, doesn't that insight give us the vitality to change?

These questions are MY inner life. But, I'm also attempting to connect the outer events that I have witnessed in my life time as well. The mind of man is connected to the infinite, to the extraordinary. But, why doesn't that meaning translate into our daily lives? Why are our lives so utterly meaningless the way we currently live them?

I have been hesitant to bring up the whole "World Teacher" thing, with the mambo-jumbo of Madame Blavatsky and how it MAY connect to the murder of President Kennedy. I have no idea whether these events have a connection. But, I have begun to consider they may.

When light moves across the land, does darkness react? When compassion manifests, does it cause a reaction? Those questions, to my perception, are important in understanding some of the key events that happened in the last century.

Hi Stan,

Thank you for your thoughtful response.

I'd love to believe that the World Teacher has come and gone, but I'm sad to say that I don't buy into that philosophy. I absolutely do believe you accept this as your fact and immensely respect your honesty and position about it - and would like to believe it, but my inner experiences are quite different.

My problem is that I don't see a lightening of the Collective Shadow, but rather I observe that it is getting denser and darker. And because of this, I regularly post - and bore readers rigid I suspect - and the vital importance of each of us taking the step towards tackling their own personal Shadow.

And the road that leads to this must, of course, begin by the descent into your own personal hell.

On the subject of the subject matter, so to speak, I applaud you for tackling this openly as you have done. I do, I promise, fully understand your hesitation in raising it. Thank you for doing so. It takes courage.

David
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 02-07-2013, 05:04 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 02-07-2013, 06:47 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 02-07-2013, 09:04 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 02-07-2013, 09:49 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 02-07-2013, 11:14 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 03-07-2013, 01:25 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 03-07-2013, 01:31 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 03-07-2013, 03:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 03-07-2013, 04:24 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 03-07-2013, 04:43 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 04-07-2013, 04:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 04-07-2013, 06:21 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 04-07-2013, 07:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 04-07-2013, 08:15 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 04-07-2013, 09:08 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 04-07-2013, 10:01 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 05-07-2013, 12:42 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 07:50 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 05-07-2013, 07:44 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 05-07-2013, 07:50 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 08:11 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 05-07-2013, 09:26 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 09:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:15 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 06-07-2013, 08:38 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 06-07-2013, 11:07 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 06-07-2013, 01:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 06-07-2013, 03:00 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 03:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 06-07-2013, 06:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:50 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 09:26 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 07-07-2013, 12:31 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 07-07-2013, 01:55 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 07-07-2013, 03:20 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 07-07-2013, 06:41 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:47 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Michael Cross - 26-07-2013, 09:37 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 27-07-2013, 02:40 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 27-07-2013, 08:40 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 27-07-2013, 10:15 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 27-07-2013, 01:36 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 27-07-2013, 08:42 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 28-07-2013, 07:13 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 28-07-2013, 09:59 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 28-07-2013, 10:37 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 28-07-2013, 10:45 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Dawn Meredith - 28-07-2013, 03:35 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 28-07-2013, 04:25 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 08-08-2013, 07:27 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 08-08-2013, 07:31 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 08-08-2013, 07:45 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 08-08-2013, 07:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 08-08-2013, 08:55 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:24 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:41 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Anthony Thorne - 09-08-2013, 05:28 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 11:50 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 09-08-2013, 12:21 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:12 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 05:00 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Doyle - 09-08-2013, 05:15 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 09-08-2013, 05:54 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 06:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 06:30 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 06:55 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 09-08-2013, 07:33 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 09-08-2013, 07:38 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 09-08-2013, 08:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 09-08-2013, 09:39 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 10-08-2013, 12:27 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 10-08-2013, 02:08 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 10-08-2013, 10:18 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 10-08-2013, 05:32 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 10-08-2013, 06:34 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 10-08-2013, 07:12 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 10-08-2013, 08:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 10-08-2013, 09:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 11-08-2013, 12:06 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 11-08-2013, 01:59 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 11-08-2013, 02:19 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 11-08-2013, 04:38 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 11-08-2013, 09:47 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 03:58 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 04:02 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 04:09 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 12-08-2013, 04:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Healy - 12-08-2013, 04:54 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 12-08-2013, 09:20 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 12-08-2013, 10:36 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Doyle - 12-08-2013, 03:34 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 12-08-2013, 07:11 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 12-08-2013, 07:25 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 13-08-2013, 01:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 13-08-2013, 01:53 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 13-08-2013, 02:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 13-08-2013, 05:09 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 14-08-2013, 02:52 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 14-08-2013, 03:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by R.K. Locke - 05-09-2013, 10:58 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 07-09-2013, 12:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 07-09-2013, 08:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 07-09-2013, 09:24 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 17-09-2013, 08:18 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 17-09-2013, 10:14 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 17-09-2013, 11:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 17-09-2013, 04:33 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 17-09-2013, 07:08 PM
The Splintering Frame - by R.K. Locke - 17-09-2013, 07:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 17-09-2013, 11:59 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 18-09-2013, 09:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 18-09-2013, 12:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 18-09-2013, 06:03 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 18-09-2013, 09:30 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 19-09-2013, 08:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 19-09-2013, 10:12 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 19-09-2013, 11:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 19-09-2013, 11:27 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 19-09-2013, 06:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 20-09-2013, 01:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 20-09-2013, 08:37 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 20-09-2013, 12:10 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 21-09-2013, 02:27 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 21-09-2013, 02:40 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 21-09-2013, 07:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Peter Lemkin - 21-09-2013, 07:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 21-09-2013, 09:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 21-09-2013, 09:20 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 22-09-2013, 12:24 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Peter Lemkin - 22-09-2013, 08:23 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 22-09-2013, 12:54 PM
The Splintering Frame - by C. Savastano - 24-09-2013, 06:33 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 10:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 11:42 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 24-09-2013, 12:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 12:18 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 24-09-2013, 07:16 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 06-02-2014, 01:05 AM

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