18-07-2013, 06:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 18-07-2013, 07:13 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Great and interesting topic - but a rather HUGE one. It was not just Bormann. He was involved with Skorzeny and many, many others via ODESSA and the Vatican, as well as by aspects of the OSS/CIA/others in moving assets out to various places - best known is S. America - but that is far from the ONLY place. Some, but not all, was in joint accounts of Bormann and Peron. Much of it secretly remained in Germany or in Europe - or found its way secretly to the USA. It was not just money and gold - stolen or extorted [even pried out of human flesh]; but also art treasures, securities, and 'intellectual property', secret weapons and 'techniques' and persons knowledgeable about them. This happened from the former Greater Reich who had hidden their 'assets' in many places - some of it moved by plane, U-boat, and ships before the war ended. Some hidden underground or in Swiss and other accounts.
I believe Patton was murdered for what he had seen with his eyes and would have known and was about to speak that it was not being properly handled [see book Target Patton by Wilcox] - but leaked back to Nazi and 'Allied' Nazi pals [like Dulles and his friends] 'hands'. The USSR got a minor, but not insignificant share.
The greatest disappearance of assets was likely from Japan - and our very own David Guyatt is an expert on that. Lansdale figures in heavily here, and some of that money/gold/wealth has been moving around from intel bank to intel bank [or secret accounts or secret 'stashes']. This Eastern chapter also explains the lasting power of Marcos - who kept the secrets of the stashes in the Philippines for the US Secret Government, IMO, for a modest 'carrying charge'. Imelda's shoe collection barely spent a trillionth of it.
Much of that was/is used by 'Western' intelligence and financial interests for their own purposes. Back in the Reich, much of the Gold simply 'evaporated' from where it was (see book Nazi Gold by Sayer and Botting), near Oberammergau[where many of the the high-value Nazis were warehoused, interrogated, some 'Paperclipped' - and many soon-to-be high level spooks were cutting their eye teeth - Sgt. Kissinger being but one*]. The huge sums of currencies from many lands, art, and other valuables that Patton saw in a salt mine never were fully inventoried, nor did they make it to where it should have gone - again 'evaporating'...but not gone - only becoming unseen. We see but the tip of the iceberg of stolen assets, never repatriated to the victims or nations it was stolen from. To the real victors goes the spoils, it is said.
It is a huge topic and I know some more...but don't have time this morning to connect too many more dots...perhaps another time.
[* A unusually high number of persons, Clay Shaw being only one of MANY, associated in some way with the JFK Assassination were passing through or working at Oberammergau or its satellite camps and post-war 'programs'.]
I believe Patton was murdered for what he had seen with his eyes and would have known and was about to speak that it was not being properly handled [see book Target Patton by Wilcox] - but leaked back to Nazi and 'Allied' Nazi pals [like Dulles and his friends] 'hands'. The USSR got a minor, but not insignificant share.
The greatest disappearance of assets was likely from Japan - and our very own David Guyatt is an expert on that. Lansdale figures in heavily here, and some of that money/gold/wealth has been moving around from intel bank to intel bank [or secret accounts or secret 'stashes']. This Eastern chapter also explains the lasting power of Marcos - who kept the secrets of the stashes in the Philippines for the US Secret Government, IMO, for a modest 'carrying charge'. Imelda's shoe collection barely spent a trillionth of it.
Much of that was/is used by 'Western' intelligence and financial interests for their own purposes. Back in the Reich, much of the Gold simply 'evaporated' from where it was (see book Nazi Gold by Sayer and Botting), near Oberammergau[where many of the the high-value Nazis were warehoused, interrogated, some 'Paperclipped' - and many soon-to-be high level spooks were cutting their eye teeth - Sgt. Kissinger being but one*]. The huge sums of currencies from many lands, art, and other valuables that Patton saw in a salt mine never were fully inventoried, nor did they make it to where it should have gone - again 'evaporating'...but not gone - only becoming unseen. We see but the tip of the iceberg of stolen assets, never repatriated to the victims or nations it was stolen from. To the real victors goes the spoils, it is said.
It is a huge topic and I know some more...but don't have time this morning to connect too many more dots...perhaps another time.
[* A unusually high number of persons, Clay Shaw being only one of MANY, associated in some way with the JFK Assassination were passing through or working at Oberammergau or its satellite camps and post-war 'programs'.]
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