18-07-2013, 08:19 AM
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Quote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Great and interesting topic - but a rather HUGE one.Oh, it sure is isn't it? Massive even. That's why I thought we'd put it all here in one thread to make dot connecting easier. Sort of...I hope...
Peter Lemkin Wrote:I believe Patton was murdered for what he had seen with his eyes and would have known and was about to speak that it was not being properly handled [see book Target Patton by Wilcox] - but leaked back to Nazi and 'Allied' Nazi pals [like Dulles and his friends] 'hands'. The USSR got a minor, but not insignificant share.I don't know very much about Patton but I've seen it referenced here and there and would like to know more about it. And I am sure others do too.
Yes, no doubt the Nazis had an original inventory [they were very 'anal' about things like that.], but as Patton approached from the West and the USSR from the East things were very quickly moved to this giant salt mine and a few other locations, under bombing, by truck and sometimes train [when the tracks were still intact] - I'm sure some went missing along the way by higher-ups accidentally on purpose, and attributed to hostile action. Anyway, there is a famous photo of Patton and his men in the salt mine looking at acres of bags/boxes/barrels/crates of gold, diamonds, art, money of many countries, securities and more......He [Patton] got permission from Eisenhower to do a complete inventory and most of it was to be transferred into Allied custody. Much of it never got inventoried by the Allies and it mysteriously went its merry ways. I believe this and one other thing, related to Czechoslovakia, necessitated the most honored General in the War's death by car accident some weeks later. It is a bit more complex...but just had to add this much.
Quote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:The greatest disappearance of assets was likely from Japan - and our very own David Guyatt is an expert on that.Yay!! David!!:cheer:
Much of his work on this is still up on the internet, I believe.
The work by the Seagraves is also worth mention in this regard.
Quote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Lansdale figures in heavily here, and some of that money/gold/wealth has been moving around from intel bank to intel bank [or secret accounts or secret 'stashes']. This Eastern chapter also explains the lasting power of Marcos - who kept the secrets of the stashes in the Philippines for the US Secret Government, IMO, for a modest 'carrying charge'. Imelda's shoe collection barely spent a trillionth of it.Yes, and the Perons did very well out of it too.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Much of that was/is used by 'Western' intelligence and financial interests for their own purposes. Back in the Reich, much of the Gold simply 'evaporated' from where it was (see book Nazi Gold by Sayer and Botting), near Oberammergau[where many of the the high-value Nazis were warehoused, interrogated, some 'Paperclipped' - and many soon-to-be high level spooks were cutting their eye teeth - Sgt. Kissinger being but one]. The huge sums of currencies from many lands, art, and other valuables that Patton saw in a salt mine never were fully inventoried, nor did they make it to where it should have gone - again 'evaporating'...but not gone - only becoming unseen.But the Germans did definitely have an inventory of everything....
Peter Lemkin Wrote:It is a huge topic and I know a good deal more...but don't have time this morning to connect too many more dots...perhaps soon.Well, I am looking forward to that :rocker:
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