The Splintering Frame

[Rob Caprio]

[quote=Rob Caprio]

Kennedy was hit in the throat, back and head a la Hiram Abif. These wounds are depicted and recreated by new initiates every year into the world of Masonry. He was killed by three "unworthy" craftsmen and some relate the "three hobos" to this part of the Abif story in the JFK murder.

Sorry - but this is garbage and discredits legitimate research into this area of the assassination.

The Mechanics, the Shooters, were tasked with killing Kennedy.

There is no way the Shooters were tasked with hitting Kennedy in the throat, back and head to demonstrate masonic symbolism.

I presented an overview of some of the things that have been cited for years in this regard.

Cited by whom? Fools, charlatans, and disinformation agents, to be sure

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Why not list for me who you think falls into this group? We can claim anyone is a disinfo agent if we don't like what they say. NOT everyone is one though.

If you don't believe them that is fine, but to discredit it out of hand is not something I am not going to do.

Nothing was discredited "out of hand." Rather, what you wrote was recognized as garbage by individuals who have spent decades in open-minded study of the JFK case and who, in many instances, are recognized internationally for their expertise and published research.

Again, who would you rank as "fools, charlatans, and disinformation agents?" I really would like to know this for future reference. I don't agree with every writer/researcher out there in the CT world, but I don't call them this without proof. I just don't accept what they say. It is quite simple really.

I don't allow others to determine for me who is "recognized internationally for their expertise" either as if I did I would be a WC defender. I decide for myself. The occult meaning of DP is not lost on many who study this case and what I posted shows this. Labeling things "garbage" is silly to me. If you don't agree with it, and you obviously don't, so be it, but why do you have to call it garbage? Why not let others decide for themselves? I thought that is one of the qualities that separates us from the WC defenders, but perhaps I am wrong.

The FACT Masons were on the WC and part of the investigation is simply part of the record.

As were agnostics, Irishmen, fishermen, and wine enthusiasts.

I have seem to touch a nerve here. NONE Of the things you mention gather in groups in SECRECY and plan things for us like Masons do. Why are you opposed to this line of thought?

I also did not state this as a fact ...

Sunsteinian bullshit!

I have no idea who this was, but you guys seem to really be suspicious of him.

You wrote the following, which in word choice and tone is nothing other than a statement of fact:

"Kennedy was hit in the throat, back and head a la Hiram Abif. These wounds are depicted and recreated by new initiates every year into the world of Masonry. He was killed by three "unworthy" craftsmen and some relate the "three hobos" to this part of the Abif story in the JFK murder."

Of course I did, but that is NOT the same as saying I said for a FACT he was shot in the throat, the back and the head to mimick the wounds of Hiram Abif. I said researchers have said this is an odd coincidence. IF this came out of left field of course it would NOT be important or relevant, but it does NOT. DP is a masonic shrine practically and if you think that place was NOT chosen for a reason than you are the one that is passing out incorrect information. They could have shot JFK anywhere, but they chose DP.

As for the three tramps that is again opinion by researchers--not a statement of fact.

This is a classic maneuver of the agent provocateur -- one we have seen all too often.

NO, the classic move of the agent provocateur is to accuse someone who has NEVER written one word in support of the WC or other official findings to be an agent provocateur! A good OFFENSE is a good defense if you will.

I will offer the same challenge I have offered others who have claimed this over the years--cite or quote me saying one thing that supports the WC's findings regarding LHO. Just one.

To mention other theories or other peoples' work is NOT the same as I THOUGHT we were here to discuss things and find the truth, but perhaps I am wrong again.

This kind of attack and discussion gives credence to what the WC defenders accuse of us being--paranoid!

In my expert and widely respected opinion as protected by the U.S. Constitution, you have come to DPF on a mission to disrupt, disinform, demonize, and further prep the battlefield in advance of pending 50th anniversary attacks on those who know and proselytize the truth of conspiracy in the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

This is pure nonsense and SLANDER on your part. I wanted to post a series about the WC's evidence and the FACT that it does NOT support a single thing they claim, but was basically told NOT to do this! So I could say the same thing you wrote about YOU and the others that told me I was "preaching to the choir". I would assume you get guests here who do NOT know the evidence well and that would have helped them, but YOU and other founding members did NOT like the idea. Why? I guess I am some weird kind of disinformation person who shows the evidence the government gave us is worthless, huh?

If you believed in the Constitution as you claim then you wouldn't be throwing around slander like you are.

My guess is you listened to Duncan and others and FORMED AN OPINION OF ME before you even know what I am all about. That is what the WC did.

Do you have any evidence or proof I am a disinformation agent? IF not, then what you just did is irresponsible and harmful.

I have less than 25 posts so in the world could you know anything about me? And I thought the WC defenders were bad.